Autistic people hating successful Autistic people?

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I don't really care.

To make themselves feel better. People have a inferior complex and have low self esteem and feel insecured so they feel better when they say another person is lying about being autistic for BS reasons or they say they shouldn't be bragging about their success.

Agreed. It happened to me in the Navy, which was before I even suspected that I might have an ASD.

Most people take 12 years or more to advance through 6 pay grades. I did it in 6 years. Every time I took the advancement exam, I scored higher than anyone else at whatever command I was stationed (my "special interest" at the time coincided with my rate). Every time the results came out, someone would run to the Captain and accuse me of cheating. This was usually a person that had been busted in rank at least once, someone with whom I had butted heads at least once, or someone who was simply a slacker and a dirtbag who could not accept the idea that anyone getting promoted wasn't somehow cheating the system or cheating on the test itself.

("He's gotta be cheating, Cap'n! Nobody scores that high!")

After the first time this happened, I made it a point to sit at the same table that the proctors used to take breaks -- there was always at least one of them at the table with me. Each one testified that there was no possible way that I could have cheated, and my service record showed that I was the "go-to guy" for troubleshooting, even outside my rate.

Call it jealousy, lobster-pot syndrome, or sour grapes -- there are just some people who simply cannot accept the truth that their lack of success is a direct result of their own lack of effort.

(Note: People who are incapable of effort are swiftly drummed out of the military, if they are allowed to enter the military at all!)

Jealousy is worse in the world at large - the NT majority. Success is often resented.

I am glad when someone on the spectrum achieves something remarkable, such as the guy who finished a 52110 piece jigsaw puzzle in 32 days - as seen on a new thread in News&Current. And I admire Greta Thunberg for following her convictions and making a stand.

Didn't a note on the box say something like "8 to 12 Years"?

No wonder he's happy!

It's a joke, people. It is only a joke.

This sounds to be like they were complaining NOT about his success per se, but about something his mother said that was taken as implying that all autistic people are equally capable of similar success. To know whether this complaint was justified, I would have to see the exact quote from his mother that these people were complaining about.


Where have you seen this?

I don't recall ever seeing such an attitude here on Wrong Planet, for example. Elsewhere, I've seen resentment against successful autistic people mainly not by autistic people themselves, but by parents of severely disabled autistic people, arguing that the broadness of the autistic spectrum, as currently defined, trivializes their children's problems.

Doing that jigsaw in 32 days is mind boggling to a person like me . A person that struggles to join 4 pieces of a 5OO piece jigsaw together .
It was an amazing achievement by him .

I'm pretty lousy at puzzles myself.....

An advanced social skill I am learning is to be a good loser. Which isn't too hard because I do win a lot in competitions. But there is a lot of social value in participating and losing graciously.

This might sound harsh but also reflects my own experiences to a T.

Truth hurts, especially to those who lie to themselves.

I've always been a bad loser. And I've lost plenty of times.

I used to be jealous towards more successful people when I was a child. Even as an adult, I sometimes felt threatened by those more gifted than me, even if I knew it was unfounded. I connect it to my very low self esteem and being consistently devaluated and put down "so I didn't grow up to be narcissistic".
The stronger I feel myself, the more confident I am about my own value, the more I can admire and value others and their success.

I believe a lot of autistic people have been put down consistently enough to damage their self esteem - and ability to esteem others.

Ironically, when I realized I wasn't "gifted," I felt better about myself. I knew I had to branch out in different directions.

Though it does chafe me a little even to this day that I'm not "gifted."

If I was only interested in getting replies I would never post stories about autistics having success only stories about autistics getting abused and murdered because usually the latter type of posts get a lot more replies.

I know that sometimes these stories make people feel bad because they take it as a put down on them for not being able to do what the person in the story did. I get it. Motivational speakers and people saying if you try hard enough you can do anything makes my skin crawl. While trying hard is a net positive we are not robots and don’t have the ability to anything we want no matter how hard we try.

The reason I post these positive stories is not to motivate you by shaming you(inspiration porn) but to show you that because you are autistic the rest of your life is not doomed to constant rejection and failure. You probably will never be able to do anything remotely like the people in these stories, neither will I, but you might be able to bring out your positive traits if you don’t completely give in to the negative thought loops we on the spectrum seem to be overly subject to.

I have. I'm not even talking about putting down some very famous autistic person that could even make NTs jealous, but autistic people who have been able to do everyday things that some other autistic people can't. These people often claim that the succesful one is lying. Another thing that I see here is belittleling the succesful person's skills by saying that they must be really lucky, like luck was the only reason they achieved something and skills had nothing to do with it.