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10 Oct 2019, 11:33 am

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^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Are you keeping score? You've made this argument like a million times. We've made our argument 999,999. If we don't make our argument for the millionth time, are you going to declare victory?


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10 Oct 2019, 11:42 am

If there is corruption in the Ukraine----let the Ukrainians investigate it as they see fit----without the intercession of a foreign power.



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10 Oct 2019, 11:46 am

beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Are you keeping score? You've made this argument like a million times. We've made our argument 999,999. If we don't make our argument for the millionth time, are you going to declare victory?

Proof is required, not mere accusation.

Many, many people were convinced of TRUMP Russian election meddling too.

However, they found no proof.


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10 Oct 2019, 12:04 pm

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The real question:

Would Trump ask the Ukrainian president to investigate----a matter which does not pertain to a Democratic challenger?


Obviously not. But he wouldn't even have done it if not for the Russiagate hoax.


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10 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm

beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Are you keeping score? You've made this argument like a million times. We've made our argument 999,999. If we don't make our argument for the millionth time, are you going to declare victory?


You don't have an argument. You are just repeating CIA and DNC talking points. It's the same script as the Russiagate hoax.


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10 Oct 2019, 3:59 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?


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10 Oct 2019, 7:26 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?

Your response indicates you don't comprehend what is going on.

The whistleblower is blowing the whistle about the phone call (about the transcript).

Zelensky publicly stated today that there was no blackmail, no pressure by TRUMP.

So, what is your proof?


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10 Oct 2019, 8:25 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?

Your response indicates you don't comprehend what is going on.

The whistleblower is blowing the whistle about the phone call (about the transcript).

Zelensky publicly stated today that there was no blackmail, no pressure by TRUMP.

So, what is your proof?


Have you seen the transcript?
There is another whistle blower who was a first hand witness.
Zelensky is afraid of crossing Trump and losing any further aid. Still, it was obvious Trump asked him for a favor before he gets the funds promised him.
The fact that a couple of Giuliani's henchmen who had been operating for Trump in Ukraine have been arrested speaks volumes. And to get lighter sentences, they'll speak volumes, too!


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10 Oct 2019, 8:27 pm

There is no "Trump Ukraine Scandal" and never has been. There is a massive Biden-Obama Ukraine Scandal.

There is a Democrat candidate (Biden) conspiring with traitors inside the government to overthrow the elected president.

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Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal

The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... als-reveal


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10 Oct 2019, 8:36 pm

Darmok wrote:
There is no "Trump Ukraine Scandal" and never has been. There is a massive Biden-Obama Ukraine Scandal.

There is a Democrat candidate (Biden) conspiring with traitors inside the government to overthrow the elected president.

Image

Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal

The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... als-reveal


Republican spin, and nothing more. Spin it right, and you could make Lincoln freeing the slaves and saving the Union a crime against humanity!


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10 Oct 2019, 9:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?

Your response indicates you don't comprehend what is going on.

The whistleblower is blowing the whistle about the phone call (about the transcript).

Zelensky publicly stated today that there was no blackmail, no pressure by TRUMP.

So, what is your proof?


Have you seen the transcript?
There is another whistle blower who was a first hand witness.
Zelensky is afraid of crossing Trump and losing any further aid. Still, it was obvious Trump asked him for a favor before he gets the funds promised him.
The fact that a couple of Giuliani's henchmen who had been operating for Trump in Ukraine have been arrested speaks volumes. And to get lighter sentences, they'll speak volumes, too!


You said the same thing over the Steele Dosser, the Muller Report and Trump's "henchmen" being arrested and turning over on him for a reduced sentence. Trump would probably be behind bars now if the predictions you made with absolute certainty had come true.



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11 Oct 2019, 12:12 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?

Your response indicates you don't comprehend what is going on.

The whistleblower is blowing the whistle about the phone call (about the transcript).

Zelensky publicly stated today that there was no blackmail, no pressure by TRUMP.

So, what is your proof?


Have you seen the transcript?
There is another whistle blower who was a first hand witness.
Zelensky is afraid of crossing Trump and losing any further aid. Still, it was obvious Trump asked him for a favor before he gets the funds promised him.
The fact that a couple of Giuliani's henchmen who had been operating for Trump in Ukraine have been arrested speaks volumes. And to get lighter sentences, they'll speak volumes, too!


You said the same thing over the Steele Dosser, the Muller Report and Trump's "henchmen" being arrested and turning over on him for a reduced sentence. Trump would probably be behind bars now if the predictions you made with absolute certainty had come true.


It aint over yet.


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11 Oct 2019, 4:38 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There is no "Trump Ukraine Scandal" and never has been. There is a massive Biden-Obama Ukraine Scandal.

There is a Democrat candidate (Biden) conspiring with traitors inside the government to overthrow the elected president.

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Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal

The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... als-reveal


Republican spin, and nothing more. Spin it right, and you could make Lincoln freeing the slaves and saving the Union a crime against humanity!

More like waste of time. Lets assume the whistleblower is part of a nefarious plot to smear Trump by accusing him of calling the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden. Trump on the White House lawn with the TV cameras rolling called on Ukraine and China to investigate Biden making the “plot” irrelevant.


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11 Oct 2019, 4:17 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There is no "Trump Ukraine Scandal" and never has been. There is a massive Biden-Obama Ukraine Scandal.

There is a Democrat candidate (Biden) conspiring with traitors inside the government to overthrow the elected president.

Image

Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal

The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... als-reveal


Republican spin, and nothing more. Spin it right, and you could make Lincoln freeing the slaves and saving the Union a crime against humanity!

More like waste of time. Lets assume the whistleblower is part of a nefarious plot to smear Trump by accusing him of calling the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden. Trump on the White House lawn with the TV cameras rolling called on Ukraine and China to investigate Biden making the “plot” irrelevant.


Yes, it is to laugh! :lol:


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12 Oct 2019, 9:02 pm

The Left is engaging in an across the board campaign against free speech and freedom of the press. It's the only way they can hope to keep their massive corruption hidden.


Biden’s Campaign Is Asking Major Media Outlets, Big Tech To Black Out Trump’s Ads On Ukraine

Former Vice President Joe Biden is trying to use the national media as cover against President Donald Trump’s barbs about his past work in Ukraine.

Joe Biden is also asking Facebook and other big tech companies remove a Trump ad that slams him for reportedly urging Ukraine to oust a prosecutor who once investigated his son’s energy company.

Twitter has not responded to the Daily Caller News Foundation’s request for comment about what it intends to do with the ad, while Fox News and Facebook say they will run the ad.


https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/11/trum ... -campaign/


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12 Oct 2019, 11:03 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There is no "Trump Ukraine Scandal" and never has been. There is a massive Biden-Obama Ukraine Scandal.

There is a Democrat candidate (Biden) conspiring with traitors inside the government to overthrow the elected president.

Image

Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal

The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... als-reveal


Republican spin, and nothing more. Spin it right, and you could make Lincoln freeing the slaves and saving the Union a crime against humanity!

More like waste of time. Lets assume the whistleblower is part of a nefarious plot to smear Trump by accusing him of calling the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden. Trump on the White House lawn with the TV cameras rolling called on Ukraine and China to investigate Biden making the “plot” irrelevant.


Yes, it is to laugh! :lol:


There you go. The whole thing is absurd.