civil rights atty. shows 20 ways trumpy emulates hitler

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^^^thank you Blazingstar to the people who refuse to even entertain the possibility that there is "something there," "there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE." they are part of the system that enables them in particular to prosper, so they will never question that system as their continued prosperity [at the expense of others] depends on their not questioning it.

Yeah there’s not a single American farmer in the nation. Oh wait there’s millions of them. And of the farms who hire illegals paid min wage Americans would do that work. I’ve known many who do farm hand work. We don’t habe a lot of illegals here but we do have a lot of farms and farm hands. So tired of that lie. It pretty’s Americans as lazy slobs.

In other words, please vote democrat.

Drake already gave examples on page 1.
I don't know if the same list can be made about Obama, Bush, Clinton and Hitler, but I do know there are oodles of comparisons in existence. The definitions of a dictator is one thing. Adolf Hitler is a specific person. The reason why Hitler is chosen most often as opposed to any other dictator is because the name carries so much impact; is meant to strike fear.

1.Obama was labeled the "Deporter in Chief" because of his nationalism, and suggested racism towards Mexicans.

2.Obama's hatred of illegal aliens was so great that he deported more illegal aliens than any other previous president.

3.Obama stuck everyone with the exceptionally tyrannical ACA mandate penalty. That government can penalize you for not doing something. Like Hitler, he's anti-freedom.

4.Obama like Hitler, exploded the national debt.

5.Obama like Hitler, raised taxes.

6.Obama like Hitler's gestapo, authorized the tyrannical PATRIOT ACT.

7.Obama like Hitler, engaged in new military interventions.

8. Obama like Hitler, engaged in Socialist interference: bailing out GM, investing in failed GREEN ENERGY companies, COMMON CORE.

9.Obama like Hitler, expanded welfare spending.

10.Like Hitler, he was known to have a mustache.

The Patriot Act was authorized by Bush 43, in response to 9/11.

The ACA was a poor attempt at compromise between socialized and capitalistic health insurance.

All the other things you mentioned were not specifically Hitlerian.

Obama hardly ever had a mustache. Certainly never a Hitlerian one.


Now.....I don’t think Trump is a Hitler—but I feel Obama was even less of a Hitler than Trump.

You are missing the point. Of course you can make comparisons between any two people and probably find similarities.

The point AB was trying to make is that there are some characteristics that are particular to dictators, and whether or not our current president seems to be moving in that direction.

Trump is definitely trying to screw with the First Amendment....especially Freedom of the Press.

His Presidency is described as being “Orwellian”—and I agree with that assessment.

This doesn’t mean he’s a Hitler....but he is certainly a Trump who has to be watched.

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What an absurd thing to say. You are smarter than that Ezra.

AB is making a point, which can be debated. But you can't put words in his mouth and you are probably quite in error. AB is talking about whether we have a budding dictator on our hands, or not.

AB is trying to make a point and it has to do with whether or not our president is leading the country into a dictatorship. AB, if I am wrong, please correct me.

So, the first thing that needs to be done is find out what the characteristics of a dictator are, and then apply them to the current president. Comparing him to Obama or any other American president is not the question, it is a digression from the topic.

I would so like to see some thoughtful discussions of the topic instead of people just bashing one political party or another.

Just my 2c.

The concept of “Alternative Facts” reminds me both of “Newspeak” and “Doublethink” in Orwell’s “1984.” Big Brother used this, and many other devices, in his dictatorship.

There is a strong sense that Trump and those employed by him are using those same methods.

I spoke to a person who is a conservative in many things. He wants Trump “out of there.” He was a friend of my father’s—a businessman.

Maybe it's interesting, but it's also one sided. You're still stuck in the left/right paradigm, as is AB, so it's rather difficult to get you see the primary point of my comment. We got Trump because Americans have been duped into playing the "lesser of the evils" game for far too long. If we had a party that represented a true opposition to neoliberalism, we wouldn't have a right wing demagogue as president. When people feel their government is screwing then over at every turn, this s**t happens. In fact, it's happening all over the world. Attacking Trump 24/7 is a waste of time. He's just a symptom, not the disease.

Trump has the kind of power he has because the presidents that came before him expanded the power of the executive branch. There have warnings from political experts for years, essentially saying sooner or later we'll get someone in the oval office that will really abuse that power. Obama repealed habeas corpus, which gives the president the right drone or lockup anyone he deems an enemy of the state without do process. There's a prime example of fascism right there for you to digest.

If you want to keep playing the lesser of the two evils game, that's your business. But I left that behind years ago. No Democrat is getting my vote in 2020. And I don't need a civics or history lesson from anybody. But thanks so much for the condescension.

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On the subject of President Johnson, yes he did great things for for civil rights. But on the subject of the Vietnam War, he presided over the Gulf of Tonkin incident, a false flag operation, which led to the deaths of nearly 58,000 American soldiers, and many more civilian deaths. The war was predicated on a lie. Funny how you didn't mention that while on the topic of the Vietnam War.

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Hitler supported gun control In name of safety too, Hitler even banned tables with corners. Hitler was all about government forcing its ideals on you for safety, much like Obama and every either democrat politician.

Obama’s posters were very similar to hitlers own from the elections.

Obama like Hitler got thousands to attend rallies.

He promised to swoop back in and seize the president office. Could you i,alone if bush made that promise as he left?

Some senators tried to pass law so Obama could be president for life and just keep running and running.

Obama expanded the illegal presidents powers, trump now uses to undue a lot of Obama did illegally.

Hs I have a pen and paper and I’ll do whatever I wanr attitude is very Hitler like.

He was to quote and add from leftists” literally black Hitler”

Was legitimately worried for while he would refuse to leave focus and use his pen and paper to declare an emergency

Translation “ how dare you compare democrats to hitler, only republicans can be compared to Hitler.”

What you and ab are doing is no different or more legitimate then comparing the others to Hitler. It’s the same exact thing. Obama would have lived to be named king of America .aka a dictator. He was constantly frustrated that he couldn’t just do what he wants and that that pesky republic with its checks and balances got in his way. How dare congress not knell to his will. Just fortunate he didn’t figure a way to have a “bombing of congress” and use it to do what Hitler did with the burning of riechstag.

I was trying to give examples of how presidents do affect the lives of ordinary citizens. You said it didn't matter who was in the White House. (And I did say Johnson had screwed up the VN war.) I was trying to give positive and negative examples of influences.

This kind of sniping (funny you didn't mention....) is what makes these discussions pretty useless.