I'm feeling very disillusioned with liberalism right now

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Bush literally said: if you're not with us, you're against us. And alienated the rest of the world.
Clinton sold the institutions to wall street, and Obama crushed everyone's hopes for change when he handed over hundreds of billions of future tax money to the banks, selling a generation into debt bondage.

Returning to them will just lead down the same path again.
Trump is a sign of how bad things had gotten under clinton, bush and obama. And that's just within the US.
The middle east has been revolting against the US and its allies for decades, and there are decades more to come.

Ok. What I meant to say was "I miss the days when I was blissfully ignorant of the world".

And all the while, the moderates/centrists are being squeezed out. Anything to the right of Bernie or AOC is considered fascist, and anything to the left of Trump is considered socialist or communist.

Ironic how the term "Caught between the Devil and the deep blue sea" fits our current political situation so well!

Julia Sugarbaker from Designing Women said it best:

"All liberals are NOT kooks! Anymore than all conservatives are fascist!"

Liberalism is ugly in practice, because of the message that individuals are blameless.

To fight wealth inequality, the message should be, "GET A JOB", "STOP OVER SPENDING", "A PENNY SAVED IS A PENNY EARNED", becomes, EVIL, GREEDY PEOPLE are taking YOUR money.

Instead of "Be the hero of your life", becomes, "You're a victim".

Instead of "try harder, learn more, do better" becomes "Government will take care of you".

Instead of "if you want something in life, go out and earn it", becomes "You deserve free stuff".

I disagree.

It's not so much about "You deserve free stuff." as it it "If you are disabled and can't take care of yourself or your family then our government should help you out!"

Why serve a government that gives you nothing in return?

Because if you didn't, you would be lucky to be rounded up and re-educated before they make you one of the "disappeared".

Have the Chinese taken over the US already?

America under the rule of Mike Pence

Re-Pencucation!

In-Deedily-Doo!

It's Bllllliiiiiiisssssss!! !!

There's nothing wrong with charity for non-abled bodied people.

However, the ugly message from liberals is that people are ENTITLED to charity.

You deserve free health care, free college, free family leave, free welfare programs ….

What is wrong with it?

An "entitlement attitude" harms people in many ways.

1. It's an ugly philosophy to think one is entitled to the labor of another ("sense of entitlement")
2. It lessens one's motivation to progress (main conservative argument).
3. It distorts decision-making , because people expect it, and don't plan for not having it.
4. It distorts perspectives , now an individual may think they're entitled to much more … in addition to these welfare programs, am I not also ENTITLED to … free college, free health care, free family leave, free childcare, free housing assistance …. free hot air balloon rides.

I do understand what you'ee saying, there are people who are capable of working but take advantage of the wellfare system anyways which is not fair to the tax payers or the people who truly do need government assistance.

But if we completely do away with government assistance because of the ones who take advantage of it then that will really harm the people who do need it. People like our wounded war veterans or those born with severe physical and mental limits who could not get a job if they wanted to.

As for healthcare, I think we need to quit making it so damn expensive. But that's just me.

regarding point 1: is this worse than feeling entitled to avoid paying taxes? where does that ugly philosophy come from?
regarding points 2 and 3: so ... instead of providing with a stable basis one can rely on, and do things like get (back) into education, the point should be to make it instable, so people stay nervous and don't dare take a risk, like getting (back) into education?
and regarding 4: so ... it distorts the perspective and might make people belive they can have a European level of basic safety? those suckers! no bread or housing this month, that'll teach 'em about assuming they live in a society!

If one isn't born into slavery, then one should be entitled to keep most of the fruit of one's labor.


The entitlement attitude.


It's not for me.

I prefer to keep my money, because I believe in myself, and trust I will make better use of it.