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02 Dec 2019, 12:22 pm

The Subjective Experience of a Person Who Sees Everything in Life as a Miracle; Awesomely Indeed; is a Period of
Existence that Subjectively Lasts Much Longer as the Present now; versus one who is depressed and analyzes
Time more like a Frigging Clock; Been there done it; the More Depressed You are the More you feel like a Clock (Blah)...

But on the other Hands of 'The Clock'...

HAha (it's not really funny) it's not surprising that the Responses 'here' are limited to Objective Measures of Science;
However, Literally that is Both Time Eating and Time Depressing to View Life that Way; if different is even possible.

The Moral of this Story is one Will 'Live Longer' 'And Prosper More in Joy' in a Much Longer Perception of Life if one
Views Life more like a Miracle And As Awesome as 'Snoopy Will in a Dance'; 'these Lessons' are
Universally Human too now.

Oh, and By The Way; Looking to Fear to Experience this 'Time Flow' through Adrenaline Jacking-up Experiences
May eventually Destroy every Bodily System We Employ to Live; Seeing the Colors of Life More Beautiful; and
Yes, By 'God' Awesome as a Miracle for every Present now; is much more efficient than Sky Diving as an Addiction;
Stuff like Combat; the such as 'that' too.

Oh Yeah; And Sure as Far as Empathy Goes; if ya Wanna Expand Your Perception of Time; Hang Around Snoopy
When He Dances; Or better Yet Be Snoopy; Just Do Snoopy too; and Don't the Forget 'the Dance'..;)

From 'Professors Wiki' on "Time Perception":

"Effects of emotional states[edit]
Awe[edit]
Research has suggested the feeling of awe has the ability to expand one's perceptions of time availability. Awe can be characterized as an experience of immense perceptual vastness that coincides with an increase in focus. Consequently, it is conceivable that one's temporal perception would slow down when experiencing awe.[50]

Fear[edit]
Possibly related to the oddball effect, research suggests that time seems to slow down for a person during dangerous events (such as a car accident, a robbery, or when a person perceives a potential predator or mate), or when a person skydives or bungee jumps, where they're capable of complex thoughts in what would normally be the blink of an eye (See Fight-or-flight response).[51] This reported slowing in temporal perception may have been evolutionarily advantageous because it may have enhanced one's ability to intelligibly make quick decisions in moments that were of critical importance to our survival.[52] However, even though observers commonly report that time seems to have moved in slow motion during these events, it is unclear whether this is a function of increased time resolution during the event, or instead an illusion created by the remembering of an emotionally salient event.[53]

A strong time dilation effect has been reported for perception of objects that were looming, but not of those retreating, from the viewer, suggesting that the expanding discs — which mimic an approaching object — elicit self-referential processes which act to signal the presence of a possible danger.[54] Anxious people, or those in great fear, experience greater "time dilation" in response to the same threat stimuli due to higher levels of epinephrine, which increases brain activity (an adrenaline rush).[55] In such circumstances, an illusion of time dilation could assist an efficacious escape.[56][57] When exposed to a threat, three-year-old children were observed to exhibit a similar tendency to overestimate elapsed time.[9][58]

Research suggests that the effect appears only at the point of retrospective assessment, rather than occurring simultaneously with events as they happened.[59] Perceptual abilities were tested during a frightening experience — a free fall — by measuring people's sensitivity to flickering stimuli. The results showed that the subjects' temporal resolution was not improved as the frightening event was occurring. Events appear to have taken longer only in retrospect, possibly because memories were being more densely packed during the frightening situation.[59]

People shown extracts from films known to induce fear often overestimated the elapsed time of a subsequently presented visual stimulus, whereas people shown emotionally neutral clips (weather forecasts and stock market updates) or those known to evoke feelings of sadness showed no difference. It is argued that fear prompts a state of arousal in the amygdala, which increases the rate of a hypothesized "internal clock". This could be the result of an evolved defensive mechanism triggered by a threatening situation.[60]

Empathy[edit]
The perception of another persons' emotions can also change our sense of time. The theory of embodied mind (or cognition), caused by mirror neurons, helps explain how the perception of other people's emotions has the ability to change one's own sense of time. Embodied cognition hinges on an internal process that mimics or simulates another's emotional state. For example, if person #1 spends time with person #2 who speaks and walks incredibly slowly, person #1's internal clock may slow down.

Depression[edit]
Depression may increase one's ability to perceive time accurately. One study assessed this concept by asking subjects to estimate the amount of time that passed during intervals ranging from 3 seconds to 65 seconds.[61] Results indicated that depressed subjects more accurately estimated the amount of time that had passed than non-depressed patients; non-depressed subjects overestimated the passing of time. This difference was hypothesized to be because depressed subjects focused less on external factors that may skew their judgment of time. The authors termed this hypothesized phenomenon "depressive realism."[61]"

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02 Dec 2019, 2:25 pm

I associate "now" with a negative number. When a supervisor approaches me and says "I want it NOW! with a lot of emphasis on the word "now". It means he really wanted it yesterday.


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03 Dec 2019, 4:53 pm

I'm trying to keep up with this but all I can think of is that scene in Spaceballs. "You're watching now."


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04 Dec 2019, 11:05 pm

Now lasts forever. In a thousand years it will still be now.

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I've heard people say "I'll be there now, in a minute".
And they were correct. Wait one minute and see if you still exist in the now.


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05 Dec 2019, 10:34 am

There is a Major Issue with the Past and Present;
if one Worries (Thinks) About Either Place That Doesn't Literally Exist; one Literally Ages Faster; Any Worry Does this;
Shortens Telomeres; The Ongoing Diary of Our Real Existence Now; Shorter or Longer Now;
EvenTuAlly, Now Becomes Shorter Than Now; But one Never Realizes Now;
For one Never Literally Faces and Becomes the Reality of Now.
Everything Else is Illusion, Even Now;
So Why Worry; Just Live; Just Be; Now.

An Amazing Thing is; if one does 'Now' 'long' enough; one becomes all that is Now;

No Time, No Distance, No Space, No Matter, Even Beyond a Word as small as 3 Letters.

Of course that probably doesn't Make a Lick of sense/feel to most folks. A Better Question
And Answer iS How one might Actually Achieve This Nirvana And Bliss; Same Way, Generally,
Humans Have Always Done it; Become A Dance And Song; One Force of Water, River, Ocean Whole.

There is no way to Describe it but Poetry;

There is no way to Do it until one
Becomes the Essence of 'Poetry';
A Spiraling Flow That Never Begins or Ends Now.

Meh; Just in my opinion;

Every one Has them; until they set themselves Free;
Beyond All Words; Beyond All Knowledge; Just Be Free;
Be Water
Be Air
Be Wings
Be Wind Be Sea Do
See Feel Sense Ocean Whole
Eternity Beyond Any Word; 'Just Do it'; Flow.


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05 Dec 2019, 11:47 am

In quantum mechanics, the Planck time (tP) is the unit of time in the system of natural units known as Planck units.  A Planck time unit is the time required for light to travel a distance of 1 Planck length in a vacuum, which is a time interval of approximately 5.39 × 10−44 seconds.

I propose that what we think of as "now" exists only within the interval of Planck Time, that there is an infinite number of "nows" at the quantum level, and that all of these "nows" represent instances of time from the dim and distant past to the dim and distant future, as well as all parallel and alternate timelines within the multiverse.


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31 Dec 2019, 5:30 am

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I wish everybody a happy 211 after-Darwin. :) ( and after Lincoln )

Happy new second!

Happy new nanosecond!

Etcetera, till the end of time



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31 Dec 2019, 7:21 am

This belief that "time is real" is passe'!

Trendy folks like me reject it because it's so.... last years model! :D



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02 Jan 2020, 10:19 pm

I could have a dream of 1 year then wake up and see that just a few hours have been passed.
Last year I've been waking up too early like 4am and now it feels like 10 years have been passed not 1 year.



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10 Jan 2020, 9:48 am

Time = Money
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Money = Debt



Time is money according to the laws of capitalism, but according to that same capitalism, the same money is also a synonym for debt.
Conclusion: Time is guilty of debt.
People possess something of consciousness. But about time I have not see anything of consciousness. In itself strange, because the time is very correct and up to date, but he/she does not know it himself/herself.
So time is the culprit of everything, but in my view time is not imputable. So to drag the time to court as the culprit / culprit for the debt he causes seems to me a waste of time. The international criminal court in The Hague sees me coming, I think they let me be locked up immediately in an isolation cell if I am going to file a complaint against time.

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10 Jan 2020, 10:06 am

One has to be outside of time to measure time effectively.


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10 Jan 2020, 10:07 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
One has to be outside of time to measure time effectively.
How would you know?  Have you ever been "outside time"?


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10 Jan 2020, 10:28 am

Fnord wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
One has to be outside of time to measure time effectively.
How would you know?  Have you ever been "outside time"?


I reasoned that as we stand inside time, we are governed by it. If time speeds up or slows down we also speed up or slow down and so does everything that is within times grasp, as one has to be outside of time and ground onself from this fixed timeless perspective to observe time.


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21 May 2020, 4:41 pm

How long is now :?:

The answer from Alan Watts is "Eternal"

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21 May 2020, 5:17 pm

Erewhon wrote:
How long is now :?:

The answer from Alan Watts is "Eternal"

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He's completely wrong.


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22 May 2020, 10:16 am

Well; Considering that Quantum
Mechanics Questions An Illusion of Time;
Considering that Science Has No Clue How
Human Consciousness Actually Works As A Synergy
of All the Parts come Together In Some of Us More Of A Forever Autotelic
Flow Now And Others Locked in a CLocK oF THeiR Own TiME MaKinG;
Subjective
Human
Consciousness
Remains as THere is
No Objective Measure
Empirically to Assess How
It Arrives To Be; It is what it is;
Some Folks Are Enjoying Forever Eternally Now As Heaven;
And Let's Face the Truth By All Empirical Observances others
are just a Trump Frown Forever Locked in Time; in Other Words,
Science is Great for What Can And Will Be Empirically Measured and Repeated Now;
But No, No, NoWHeN It Comes to Inner UNiVerSeS of Being Human Science Still Has no
Tool to Adequately
Test, Measure
And Repeatably
Observe Any Now
That is Always Changing
Like Rainbow Colors that Never End new;
Obviously, some Models and Makes of Humans See More Forever now
And Others Spend More of a Life Locked in a Self-Made Hell of Time in
Black And White Arms of CLocK; Alan Watts is a Philosopher; Poets go
one step further And Dance Sing in A Place Within No Time, Distance, Space
or Even Matter
in other Words;
No Worries Be Happy
Forever Eternally Now;
Some Folks Don't LiVE HeRe;
Technically; No One But Me;
And Everyone Else's UniVerse Unique Within;
There are No Guarantees for These Vehicles And
Vessels; No Matter Make or Model, 'Mileage' Makes
A Biggest Difference in Wisdom Real; The Rubber
on My Tires is as Thick As Ever i don't wait now for
Anyone else to change them but me always Now; Hmm...
Just ReMeMBeR no make or model alike not even one in a next Now Now


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