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22 May 2020, 10:16 am

Well; Considering that Quantum
Mechanics Questions An Illusion of Time;
Considering that Science Has No Clue How
Human Consciousness Actually Works As A Synergy
of All the Parts come Together In Some of Us More Of A Forever Autotelic
Flow Now And Others Locked in a CLocK oF THeiR Own TiME MaKinG;
Subjective
Human
Consciousness
Remains as THere is
No Objective Measure
Empirically to Assess How
It Arrives To Be; It is what it is;
Some Folks Are Enjoying Forever Eternally Now As Heaven;
And Let's Face the Truth By All Empirical Observances others
are just a Trump Frown Forever Locked in Time; in Other Words,
Science is Great for What Can And Will Be Empirically Measured and Repeated Now;
But No, No, NoWHeN It Comes to Inner UNiVerSeS of Being Human Science Still Has no
Tool to Adequately
Test, Measure
And Repeatably
Observe Any Now
That is Always Changing
Like Rainbow Colors that Never End new;
Obviously, some Models and Makes of Humans See More Forever now
And Others Spend More of a Life Locked in a Self-Made Hell of Time in
Black And White Arms of CLocK; Alan Watts is a Philosopher; Poets go
one step further And Dance Sing in A Place Within No Time, Distance, Space
or Even Matter
in other Words;
No Worries Be Happy
Forever Eternally Now;
Some Folks Don't LiVE HeRe;
Technically; No One But Me;
And Everyone Else's UniVerse Unique Within;
There are No Guarantees for These Vehicles And
Vessels; No Matter Make or Model, 'Mileage' Makes
A Biggest Difference in Wisdom Real; The Rubber
on My Tires is as Thick As Ever i don't wait now for
Anyone else to change them but me always Now; Hmm...
Just ReMeMBeR no make or model alike not even one in a next Now Now


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22 May 2020, 10:20 am

SPeaKinG oF NoW
Colors More
Ugh or Less
So Refreshing
Now Not
Flavored
Orange
With Trump
Even Sounds
Of A Pandemic
Won't Mute
Dances
Songs
of Nature
Now When A
'Wicked Witch of
the West' Frees Oz to Be Again..;)


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22 May 2020, 11:59 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Erewhon wrote:
How long is now :?:

The answer from Alan Watts is "Eternal"

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He's completely wrong.


Why?


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24 May 2020, 7:52 am

HighLlama wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Erewhon wrote:
How long is now :?:

The answer from Alan Watts is "Eternal"

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He's completely wrong.


Why?


Click the link for an explination.


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24 May 2020, 1:16 pm

^^^
Not Surprising Really
An Array of Philosophies
Of What Time is associated
with 3 or Many More Dimensions;
It surely does
Not Provide
Evidence
That Time Exists;
Just Philosophies
on the Subject of
Clocks and Hands;
While A Way We Perceive
Existence is Our Reality Now
That is the Most Real; What
We Would Be Left with if all
The Science And Religion
Suddenly All
Disappeared
including
Clocks
What is
Left Night
And Day
Moon, Stars
And Sun; Plenty
of Space To Dream
A Life Now For Real
Smiles During the
Covid19 Issue
Many Folks
Are
Finding Out
That Time isn't
What they Perceive
Before Back to the
Future of Subjective
ReaLiTy NoW
It is now
what
is now but
Mileage varies
With Each Model
Genetic Make And
Human Make of Environment too..:)


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28 May 2020, 1:10 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
HighLlama wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Erewhon wrote:
How long is now :?:

The answer from Alan Watts is "Eternal"

Image



He's completely wrong.


Why?


Click the link for an explination.


@ RetroGamer87.
Im curious whats the right answer in your opinion to the question 'How long is now'

I dont think that Alan Watts is a forum member, but if he was i shoud ask 'How long is eternal?, Is there a limit on eternal?'



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28 May 2020, 11:35 am

Erewhon wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
HighLlama wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Erewhon wrote:
How long is now :?:

The answer from Alan Watts is "Eternal"

Image



He's completely wrong.


Why?


Click the link for an explination.


@ RetroGamer87.
Im curious whats the right answer in your opinion to the question 'How long is now'

I dont think that Alan Watts is a forum member, but if he was i shoud ask 'How long is eternal?, Is there a limit on eternal?'


"Eternal" means just that. "Eternal". It goes on forever. Duuuuuhhhhhhh!



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28 May 2020, 1:40 pm

You dont answer the question Naturalplastic.
I know the meaning of eternal and forever, but i dont know how long the period of eternal and forever wil be.
Saying you dont know how long eternal wil be is a answer, but saying that eternal is eternal is the most easy way to avoid the question. I like philosophy, because every time i answer a question that answer creates several new questions who come to my mind, i like that "dust" in my brain.

How long is forever :?:

Its a same kind of philosofical question as on that Berlin Wall in the Oranienburger Straße , How Long is now :?:
If the universe disappears is there a now, is there still a eternal?

In my view there are many ways to answer these kind of questions, and not only 1 answer is the right answer in my view.



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28 May 2020, 3:08 pm





A Clock Measures Time in Deed;
A Human Measures Time in Soul;
Soul Is a Good Name For Our Experience
of Life as Science Has No Real Way to Even Quantify A Measure of our Inner Conscious Life;
It Gets Even More Difficult When Science Attempts to Quantify What Is Human Sub-Conscious Life;
And How Some Folks More Directly Tap into More of so-called 'Soul of Mind' And Others stay
Floundering on in Shallows of Ocean; so Much Deeper and Eternally Now as
Far As
How
Soul
is Coloring Now;
i surely am personally
Aware of this Subjective Experience;
As i've lived Life both in Black and White
Shallow Floundering An Ocean So Deep; And Then
Now, Diving So Much Deeper Exploring Forevernow,
So Much Deeper than 'fore; in other words again;
Obviously, for those who Have Experienced
The Different of How Short or Long
Now will be in terms of coloring
or having little to no coloring
of Life as Far As Depth of
Emotional And Sensory
Life in Synergy and
Flow of Our
Oldest Brains
Both Reptile and
Limbic too; there is
the Trap of the 'Clock Mind';
The Neo-Cortex; the Illusions of
Time, Distance, And Even Space;
And Yes Matter that is A Natural Hallucination
We Co-Create oF All This Reality of Mind We Co-Create;
in other
words,
so much
deeper than
Words or Empirical
Measure that an Old
Antiquated Tool Like
the Scientific Method was
Designed for; this feat of 'Magic'
in Weighing 'the Now' of Human 'Soul Mind' Deeper;
Smiles; Questions Like How Long is Now may be Answered
Greater in Art of How Deep Our Loving Life is Now; For Nirvana
Is Naked and Forever; A Never Ending Dance Now Around A Beach
Campfire on a Moon-lit Drum Beat Night; Lots of Words for Time Flows;
Time is A River of Soul; Water Becomes Waves Ocean Whole some folks
are only
Aware
of
Raindrop
Soul Yet to
Enter Ocean Whole
Forever Eternally Nirvana Now;
so many other words apply from
different Cultures for basically the same
Different Essences of Forevernow Heaven Within;
Kundalini Rising, Prana, Tao, Yes, again Nirvana;
And Sure Japanese Satori too; And With Western
Science
'Autotellic'
Flow spiced
With Eternal
'Frission';
Yes There
is Forevernow
but only Art to
Measure from Poetic
Words of Soul; Or sure, other
'Songs' Influenced by 'External Substances'
too; i often have folks ask me for what i'm on
at least when Dance Halls Were Open before this
Virus took them away; they wanted to go where i am
simply
Forever
Now;
Meh;
No Drugs
Necessary for
me Forever comes
as a Lifelong Practice
of Forevernow Flow as Breath;
really no different as form goes as the Waves of my Words
Dance And Sing on with never an end eternally now for it's
true
all you
are looking
at Now is JusT
Fumes From Heaven;
Sure, in Metaphor, All of
What Angel Wings Leave behind as 'Classical Gas';
The Longest Points 'Tween Forevernow are for those who Experience
'Frission' In Life NoW WHere the Essence of Our Light Becomes ever More
Christmas Tree Colors NeW WHere We aRe simply Lit up all the way in connections of all that is;
We aRe Reflection oF all that exists as many connections More than Points oF Light and More
in Synergy
of Stars
even
Science
Aided Eyes See;
Above ALWaYS
Below Now
We Carry
More
Eyes of Water,
Waves; And Ocean to See More, Us;
For every connection we make in Human
Potential More; Forever now is A Dance, A Song; but
only When one Hears Sees Music of 'God' (All) this way Now;
Basically When Two Feet Become One Dance of Balance One Arrives Eternally Now in Flow.
In The First Video, From 1968; A Dude Does Forevernow as Dance of His Fingers Complex Enough
Across Guitar Strings Beyond Anxiety to Bring Autotelic Flow of Frission Delight that others who are
Open 'Souled' Enough Will Vicariously Reflect/Feel as Forever Ecstasy Nirvana Now; On the Other Hand;
more than
Likely the
Second
Video
Is About
An Experience
With Hallucinatory Drugs;
'You' Can only Buy Forevernow
this way in an ironically short experience
this way; but when You Work for Heaven
of Eternally Now You Master the All in All
And are set free With 'Angel Wings'; i don't
Suggest 'Motorcycle Repair Zen'; A Dance And
Song Will Naturally Light 'Us' up more iN Flow as
Musical Instrument are Natural extensions of the Drum
Beats of Our HeART Emotions; And Vocal Chords As Strings of
Guitar; as Piano Does Both Strings and Percussion Even more too.
And Yes, there
Are Dead
Words
That are
only Concrete
Flavored Labels;
Yet There is Natural Poetry
A Dance And Song of Soul That
Never Ends ForeverNoW iN ZoNE of Flow too;
As Basically Soul Becomes Organic Essence in Form of Words;
That's a Life Long Treat of Trick so Much More iN Practice Creating
Heaven Forevernow than a short-term 'Pill' that is no answer for
Longterm forevernow;
Either You have
Forevernow
Or You
Do Not;
When You
Do You See Without
Eyes or Ears and suddenly
totally find out most all the
Mystical Meanings of Old Sacred
Text is so much More Advanced
Than any Measure of Science
Now. You only find Forever
Now through Experience;
Some folks get a hint of it through
'A Pill'; Folks Who actually Do Forever Master Now this way; but don't
Expect to ever understand Forevernow until You Arrive Here Now; then
all becomes
revealed
without
a word
or a
Measure
of Anything but forevernow;
In other words, nothing i just
Said Matters unless one comes
ALong this path on THeir own NoW
WHeRE ALonE BeCoMeS ALLONE Then
You Understand
Who God
Is Us
And
them Us
Just Sees More than Them;
But We aRe STiLL All Forevernow (God).
Again, It's Like Beating Your Head through
A Brick Wall Until You Break Through And Are
Truly Born in LiGHT to See; Metaphors Like Reborn
Are Common; Butterfly Wings Out of Cocoons; Phoenixes
Rising From Ashes.. etc.. etc...
forever
more
now
the Metaphors
Never End And Flow
More Eternally Now More...
At Least Science Can See
A Brain Light Up in a Scan
When It Happens and say Wow It is Real!
But Only Really Real When You Experience
Essence over Shell of a Brain Scan; It's Really
No Different than Poetry some 'See' the Essence
Other folks Feel
Only Empty Shells
of
Word
Salad;
(nothing)
but Yes of
course they
are lacking
Keys to Heaven now Eternally...
Too Many Keys to Measure Yet
The Destination is Still Forevernow (God);
No Doubt Other Animals Experience Forever
Easy Without the Virus of Neo-Cortex NoW
(CuLTuRaL Clothes) and Other Words/Tools...
just
hiding
Forevernow;
Forgotten as Human Clothes;
It's Really a Free and Naked Place..
Just Reborn From WHeRE We aRe NoW iN FLoW ETeRaLLY NoW


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28 May 2020, 3:42 pm

I'm more concerned with how soon is now.



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