Children of abused mothers 50% more likely to have low IQ

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26 Nov 2019, 6:29 am

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Children of women who reported domestic violence in pregnancy or during the first six years of the child's life are almost 50% more likely to have a low IQ at age 8, research finds.

In the study by University of Manchester epidemiologists, 13% of children whose mothers did not experience domestic violence had an IQ of below 90 at 8 years of age.

If their mothers experienced physical violence from their partner either in pregnancy or during the first six years of the child's life, the figure rises to 22.8%.

The team led by Dr Kathryn Abel from The University of Manchester show the chance of a low IQ rises to 34.6% if the mother was repeatedly exposed to domestic violence.



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26 Nov 2019, 7:19 am

I don't see if they screened for social factors - simultanous social factors are correlated with domestic abuse and low IQ.
Might be common cause (low social class) or even more complex relationship between social class, domestic abuse and intelligence.


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26 Nov 2019, 7:34 am

Abused kids just don’t feel the motivation to do the various subtests which are more abstract than others, and require more inspiration.

Perhaps it’s a matter of “relevance.”



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26 Nov 2019, 7:41 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Abused kids just don’t feel the motivation to do the various subtests which are more abstract than others, and require more inspiration.

Perhaps it’s a matter of “relevance.”

That's another factor, children of abused mothers are very likely to be abused themselves.


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26 Nov 2019, 7:58 am

If one looks at some of the subtests of the Wechsler’s Adult Intelligence Scale, one would feel that people who lack motivation wouldn’t do well on them.

Because they might feel there’s no relevance to their real life.



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26 Nov 2019, 8:06 am

You've both raised good points . Are lower IQ families ones in which domestic abuse is more likely to happen ?


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26 Nov 2019, 8:11 am

Domestic abuse certainly doesn’t help matters....it might, paradoxically, motivate some folks more, though.



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26 Nov 2019, 8:11 am

This sounds like it might be a case of correlation vs causation.



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26 Nov 2019, 8:18 am

It’s a vicious circular pattern, really.



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26 Nov 2019, 8:23 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s a vicious circular pattern, really.



It's certainly a chicken and egg situation .


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26 Nov 2019, 8:35 am

Both create the same results: lower IQ scores.

Imagine just getting slapped around by your father...and having to take an IQ test?



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26 Nov 2019, 8:44 am

Does motivation lead to higher IQ scores or does higher IQ make you more motivated ?


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26 Nov 2019, 8:49 am

firemonkey wrote:
Does motivation lead to higher IQ scores
Certainly - IQ tests require quite an effort, without motivation you don't get high score
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or does higher IQ make you more motivated ?
Maybe.


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26 Nov 2019, 8:55 am

Depends upon the individual.

But it’s probably a little bit of both in most people.

For practical purposes, both should be considered. And the preponderance of one over the other should be assessed.



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26 Nov 2019, 9:04 am

There may also be the factor that low IQ people are more likley to suffer abuse, the children may be inheriting genetic conditions associated with learning disabilities from their mothers



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26 Nov 2019, 9:13 am

High-IQ people abuse children pretty darn often, too.