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02 Dec 2019, 11:45 am

Since Microsoft is closing maintenance on Windows 7, I will have to move to Windows 10. :evil: Being an aspie, I do not like changes. :-(

I have to use Windows because of state requirements.

I have an ultralight laptop for my work in the field. It has windows 10 on it.

I have always had a desk top type computer in my office. Now, I am hearing that I should get a laptop for my office too.
BUT, due to age and infirmity, I have to have a giant size monitor (I think it is 24 inches) and a full regular keyboard. Almost all my work in the office is on the computer. I work at the computer for hours at a stretch.

I am told now that I can use the laptop in my office and attach my large monitor and keyboard to the laptop. In theory I would need only one laptop to run the entire operation. I don't like that due to the number of computers I need in home, office, in the field and don't want to always be moving it around. I also like having at least two computers so that if one goes down, I am still in business.

What I need in a computer is: as fast as possible, able to keep lots of windows open at one time, store a lot of files. Most files are docs or spreadsheets. I do have more and more pictures. I have to connect to state VPN and another encrypted website.

My data is backed up in the cloud.

I am willing to spend up to $1000.

Should I get a desktop again? Or another laptop? If so, please give me specific recommendations because my brain goes to mush talking about RAM and processors.
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02 Dec 2019, 6:19 pm

I really can't believe they are "stopping maintenance" on Windows 7. It's only been 10 years since it started.

I believe you can upgrade from Window 7 to Windows 10 for less than $1,000. Possibly less than $200.



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02 Dec 2019, 6:32 pm

The last word in getting numbers crunched is a ThinkPad as we were discussing. If I were you, I would go looking for their lighter specced 15 or 16 inch screen models, if you want to simply drop a grand I would go for a mid-model ThinkPad X1 15“ with 16gb of RAM & that's about it, unless you need to uprate the drive capacity.


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02 Dec 2019, 6:34 pm

Thanks, Kortie.

My desk top is very old, so it is time to get a new one anyway. I have a newer one, but it is also windows 7. It is my back up computer.

I hate change....big surprise. :D


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02 Dec 2019, 6:37 pm

cberg wrote:
The last word in getting numbers crunched is a ThinkPad as we were discussing. If I were you, I would go looking for their lighter specced 15 or 16 inch screen models, if you want to simply drop a grand I would go for a mid-model ThinkPad X1 15“ with 16gb of RAM & that's about it, unless you need to uprate the drive capacity.


And I can attach this thinkpad to my big monitor and keyboard? If so, what do I use to make the connection?

What is the drive capacity and why might it need upgrading?

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02 Dec 2019, 6:40 pm

ThinkPads are very upgradable, I'd say anywhere from 128gb on up to what I just bought with the option for 4 terabytes & eventually more. Monitor adapters can charge new laptops through a single cable that's also running your usb stuff, display(s) & network.

You can buy some very cost effective tiny desktops as well, Intel actually sells their own models directly. The complete (not a kit) NUC micro desktops are quite affordable for the power since they're designed by the same company making the chipsets.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Enthusiast-Windows-Gunmetal-BOXNUC7I7BNKQ/dp/B077B5CSWZ/ref=asc_df_B077B5CSWZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309779531175&hvpos=1o7&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5988071524502742276&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028723&hvtargid=pla-455686262622&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62412137260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309779531175&hvpos=1o7&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5988071524502742276&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028723&hvtargid=pla-455686262622


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02 Dec 2019, 6:43 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I really can't believe they are "stopping maintenance" on Windows 7. It's only been 10 years since it started.

I believe you can upgrade from Window 7 to Windows 10 for less than $1,000. Possibly less than $200.


You can buy a Windows 10 Pro license key for about 5 US dollars on eBay.

As comfortable as it may be, a lot of code was too poorly managed to allow for reintegration of the Windows 10 backend.


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02 Dec 2019, 6:51 pm

There was a 12 Gigabyte RAM, 2 Terabyte Hard Drive computer on sale for $599.

I would say, if you have $1,000 to spare, that you get a brand new computer. You can get a very decent computer for $1,000 these days.



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02 Dec 2019, 7:00 pm

These days I'm pretty strictly recommending solid state drives unless it's just going to stay on one desk. My roommate jumped on a machine in that range & it's upgradeable to 24gb RAM which would futureproof you very well.


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02 Dec 2019, 7:11 pm

Cberg is pretty much an expert on computers.

I'm not.

But, come to think of it, I wouldn't bother upgrading to 10 from 7 from an old computer. I'd get a new one.

Since you need your computer for work, I'd get more a "commercial"-type computer.



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02 Dec 2019, 7:16 pm

Thank you cberg and Kortie. I will be weighing the Thinkpad and the Intel mini. I had no idea they were making "desktop" computers so small.

This computer will sit on one desk. Very rarely, if ever, moved.


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02 Dec 2019, 7:28 pm

I would make sure the keyboard is large enough for you to type comfortably.

I, for one, cannot type on a small keyboard.



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02 Dec 2019, 7:57 pm

The hacking crowd tends to buy ThinkPads for the keyboard feel & (usually the centered "minus ten" layout without the number pad), in addition to the fact that they're standard fare on the international space station.


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02 Dec 2019, 8:01 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Cberg is pretty much an expert on computers.

I'm not.

But, come to think of it, I wouldn't bother upgrading to 10 from 7 from an old computer. I'd get a new one.

Since you need your computer for work, I'd get more a "commercial"-type computer.


That's frankly a good instinct, I don't even use consumer PCs at home. Microsoft also frequently doesn't combine the necessary software to support big jumps in terms of version upgrades. It even happened to a high end desktop build my friend just tried a new 10 version on, probably because his motherboard was sufficient in terms of power but not new enough.


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03 Dec 2019, 8:52 am

I have ordered from Amazon:

Intel NUC 7 Enthusiast

I would never have even known about this option without being pointed toward it. Thank you cberg. I have not been so excited about a computer until I got my first ultralight.

I remember going on a plane with one of the first ultralights and working on it during the trip and everyone up and down the rows wanted to see this tiny computer. :-)


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