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what would you change about america?
not a darn thing, love it or leave it :| 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
just about everything! :x 5%  5%  [ 7 ]
i'm not sure. :shrug: 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
return to 70% tax rate for the 1% :idea: 5%  5%  [ 7 ]
mandate universal health/dental care :idea: 13%  13%  [ 17 ]
pay at the pump no-fault car insurance :idea: 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
direct democracy [no electoral college] :idea: 7%  7%  [ 10 ]
mandate national renewable energy infrastructure :star: 9%  9%  [ 12 ]
universal education to graduate level :idea: 8%  8%  [ 11 ]
abolish right to firearms :star: 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
mandate firearms in every household :star: 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
humane prison reform, eliminate death penalty :idea: 10%  10%  [ 13 ]
universal basic income! :idea: 6%  6%  [ 8 ]
national tax on sugar in all its forms :idea: 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
national sales tax/VAT to replace income tax, with refunds for <$100k income :idea: 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
single 6-yr terms for all federal elected offices :idea: 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
bring our military home to stay! :star: 4%  4%  [ 6 ]
stiffen antitrust regs to eliminate "too big to fail" corporate entities :idea: 8%  8%  [ 11 ]
other stuff :idea: 7%  7%  [ 10 ]
where's my reformist ice cream? :chef: 4%  4%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 136

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04 Dec 2019, 3:55 pm

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+100,000,000 for "kakcopracy"
Thank you for expanding my vocabulary.

For those who are thinking "huh...ummm what?"
Nevermind. If you have to ask the question... you will never understand the answer.


It's a government run by the least qualified individuals. Basicially a country under the control of selfish morons.


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04 Dec 2019, 4:08 pm

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Year-long paid maternity leave. For breastfeeding women, it’s often really hard to pump at work along with other considerations.

I also am for paternity leave - maybe 6 months.


Hi Sunshine.

I understand you parents have it tough,
But as a single guy all my life,
I am not happy having to support parents through my tax dollar all my working life.
Other people having children is not my responsibility. <shrug>



My immigrant parents never had the parental perks the recent generations have.
There seems to be an attitude of entitlement these days.
I guess they made "them" tougher 60 years ago after the war when they had virtually nothing but the clothes on their backs.

Different times.
Different attitudes.

This is not an attack on you.
I always enjoy your down-to-earth common sense opinions.
And I have always appreciated/valued the added intelligence and maturity you add to these forum discussions.
I simply have a different perspective in some areas.
It's a "Generation Gap" thingie. :mrgreen:

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I’m going to be the fly in the ointment.

None of this is ever going to happen.

Why?

Because my generation (the boomers) have totally f!cked everything up beyond all recognition, to the point that we are no longer a representative democracy, but an authoritarian kakcopracy.

The country known as the United States of America is now so beyond hope it’s no longer saving.

Welcome to Mahagonny, where it is a capital offense to be poor, punishable by instantaneous death penalty.


I thought it was us self entitled Millenials who are to blame. Of course, you all are to blame for us, too.

Anyway, I don’t think things are THAT bad.


A bit of this,
A bit of that,
Life is not binary, bubelah. <hug> :wink:


Without parents and children, countries wouldn’t last for very long.

Evidence does suggest that a strong parental bond helps produce well-adjusted children who will become well-adjusted adults.

I certainly couldn’t have managed working that first year. Of course, I’ve been mooching off the government for years... Fun times.



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04 Dec 2019, 4:10 pm

"It's a government run by the least qualified individuals. Basicially a country under the control of selfish morons."

IOW:

An Idiocracy.


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04 Dec 2019, 4:14 pm

SoloSailor wrote:
"It's a government run by the least qualified individuals. Basicially a country under the control of selfish morons."

IOW:

An Idiocracy.


Which is fairly typical as far as governments go. There’s far worse places than America, even under the current administration.

That’s not to say that we shouldn’t work for change but a little perspective is a good thing.



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04 Dec 2019, 4:15 pm

SoloSailor wrote:
"It's a government run by the least qualified individuals. Basicially a country under the control of selfish morons."

IOW:

An Idiocracy.



Well it's more than just idiots, it's shitty people in general being in charge of the government. The kind who run their country into the ground with bad political choices.


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04 Dec 2019, 5:10 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
SoloSailor wrote:
"It's a government run by the least qualified individuals. Basicially a country under the control of selfish morons."

IOW:

An Idiocracy.



Well it's more than just idiots, it's shitty people in general being in charge of the government. The kind who run their country into the ground with bad political choices.


To quote H. L. Mencken, “Never underestimate the intelligence of the American electorate.”

Further, quoting Walt Kelly’s Pogo, “We have met the enemy, and they is us!”


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04 Dec 2019, 5:17 pm

Meistersinger wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
SoloSailor wrote:
"It's a government run by the least qualified individuals. Basicially a country under the control of selfish morons."

IOW:

An Idiocracy.



Well it's more than just idiots, it's shitty people in general being in charge of the government. The kind who run their country into the ground with bad political choices.


To quote H. L. Mencken, “Never underestimate the intelligence of the American electorate.”

Further, quoting Walt Kelly’s Pogo, “We have met the enemy, and they is us!”



Who was it who once said something about how no Democracy was ever destroyed by foreign enemies because they all died by suicide? :chin:


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04 Dec 2019, 5:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC8vxXC0UMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMpFmHSgC4Q

Oh God; it's the "Zombie Apocalypse"; Humans Eating what i consider the Face of God (Nature);
Easy to See How We Cannibalize 'Our Home' Coming out of Orbit of Consumerism back to Lush
Forests; they still exist plentiful; With Even Clear Creeks, by name at least, where i live; yes, my BackYard.

Almost Every Problem Humanity Has Now Will Be linked Back to Eating the Face of God (Nature) (Over-Consuming)
Then and Now; Here, for metaphor, if you Will; So What's the Best Solution to Just How Much Every Human Born; not
Just in America; but Western Civilization Will Do to 'Rape' Mother Earth as She Continues to Literally Stand
'Her' Ground...

The Answer is Simple Class (Masturbation) Porn so far a Best Birth Control Pill of All to
at least Limit the Scourge of What Western Civilization continues to Do in 'His' Toxic 'Patriarchy'
as Just a Metaphor Please too in 'Raping', 'Maiming'; And Destroying What Science Suggests is 1 out
of 8 Animal And Plant Species in the 'Coming Decades'.

This isn't just my opinion; And of course, i'm Writing this with no expectation that anyone will read
it; for it is Just a Hobby in my Newer Age Youth of Golden Years to continue to Evolve all my Intelligences
for that's what you do when the 'World is Running Down'; You Make The "Best of What's Still around'; Where
Technology Takes away Humanity as Whole; at least for How We are Evolved to Live; in Balance With Nature;

Now, to Be Clear, if i wasn't Financially Independent; and Lived in Scarcity, like i used too; i would probably
Be concerned Most about Free Health Care; Free Education; Free Everything; By God Let Technology Do all the Work;
It's Hard enough already to get a Human anywhere to pay attention in Flesh and Blood anyway; above the Level of
a 6 inch Screen, or so.

i LiVE iN Flow With Autotelic Bliss; Continuously Creating More Complex Art to Give and Share Free; Never Earning
even a Penny for all that i do; i need no one to Crack a Whip on my Back to 'Do stuff'. Other Folks Would take the 'Free Money', Buy Drugs, and end up as Miserable as they already are; all the Solutions are practical (in Practice of Seeking
and Finding them) and Come from Within most; as a Practice of Life that Works Individually Great! Now for Long Term too.

Ha Ha Ha Ha; (but it's not funny) Not Enough People Care; Not Enough People Will Ever Care for this change;
As Long as Empathy levels continue to Fall 30 Percent as Science Suggests has already happened in the Last
Few Decades; continuing to Drop to about the Level of a 6 inch Screen, or so.

Honest to God, for the Rest of the World; the only Real Effective Solution; at least for some Longer Term Survival that Humans in all of Western Civilization are Working on Now is Masturbation; That Much Modern Humans Seem to Be
able to Literally Handle Well Enough Alone.

The 'Biblical Story' Has Changed/is Changing Greatly over the Course of Thousands of years in the Last ~30 Years.

Abortions Have Plummeted to the Lowest Levels; Ever since 'Roe Versus Wade'; Where Statistics were even Actually
Possible to Keep; And Teenage Pregnancies are down 72 Percent or so Since 1991; Yeah; 'we all know' what
happened then; now at least; about 98 Percent of Men and Around 73 Percent of Women; Porn Drove the
Rise of the Internet and it is still Rising to Replace Human Flesh and Blood Intercourse as We Speak. Japan
is a Leader in Technology of Porn; no Surprise close to Half of Young Folks in the Prime of their
Reproduction Ages are not 'doing it' at all; at least not in the
"Old Biblical Way" of Flesh and Blood; but Again:
Nature
Stands
'Her' Ground.
This is Just
The Natural
Solution Where
Over-Consumerism Eats itS own Face.
Meanwhile; Life is Good; I've always found
more interesting things to do; Sex is Just
Another Way of Meditation; Dance/Song In Meditative Flow
of Increasing Complexity Now Really Totally in Full Works
Just as Great And Greater; Yes, Lasts oh so much longer than 3 Hours...
(note: i believe in excelling in all that i do) Link Below in Research From 'The Atlantic' Speaks
to this Issue, overall; Meanwhile, i've got more Dance and Song to Do; it's Never Messy at least for me..;)

So in SuMMary; there is no Real such thing (beyond Metaphor) as Virgin Births for Humans; so, Keep up
the Great Works; It might not make 'Pastors' Happy; but one might save 'a bird' or two in the Hand(s)..;)

"When the World is Running Down" by 'the Police' is a Great MeMe, TheMe (Egregore) Song For 'this'.

"Love Myself" by Hailee Steinfeld; better Fits Younger Generations across Western Civilizations, for Now at Least;

And yes, even filtering down to so-called "Less than Western Civilization"; Again, Nature Will Have 'Her way' too.

i've most definitely studied this issue as a Participant Anthropology Observer too; so up close and Personal too.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... on/573949/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... se-problem

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/06/72065424 ... eport-says


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04 Dec 2019, 8:06 pm

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More cheese and a decent bakery on every corner. I want to smell freshly baked bread when I get up in the morning.

"Depends on the cheese."
Inside joke, people. :wink:


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04 Dec 2019, 8:24 pm

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Without parents and children, countries wouldn’t last for very long.

Evidence does suggest that a strong parental bond helps produce well-adjusted children who will become well-adjusted adults.

I certainly couldn’t have managed working that first year. Of course, I’ve been mooching off the government for years... Fun times.


I am surprised at the apparent seriousness of your response. 8O
I'm really not that annoyed about what I said.
I was simply presenting an alternative view. :wink:


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Down with big business!...
I'm not here to change the world...There isn't a big enough soiled nappy bin... ;)
Autistic/scout motto: "Give me a better argument and I will listen..."
"Honesty is not a social duty, not a sacrifice for the sake of others, but the most profoundly selfish virtue man can practice: his refusal to sacrifice the reality of his own existence to the deluded consciousness of others."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8) I'm a rationalist...Deal with it...:mrgreen:


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04 Dec 2019, 8:30 pm

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This isn't just my opinion; And of course, i'm Writing this with no expectation that anyone will read
it;


Nope.
Didn't read a woid of it. :wink:


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Down with big business!...
I'm not here to change the world...There isn't a big enough soiled nappy bin... ;)
Autistic/scout motto: "Give me a better argument and I will listen..."
"Honesty is not a social duty, not a sacrifice for the sake of others, but the most profoundly selfish virtue man can practice: his refusal to sacrifice the reality of his own existence to the deluded consciousness of others."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8) I'm a rationalist...Deal with it...:mrgreen:


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04 Dec 2019, 8:30 pm

"There are three classes of men; lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of gain." [Plato] the latter two are totally ruining things for the lovers of wisdom here in the land of the wage-slave, home of the unfree.



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05 Dec 2019, 9:59 am

Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
This isn't just my opinion; And of course, i'm Writing this with no expectation that anyone will read
it;


Nope.
Didn't read a woid of it. :wink:


me: "This isn't just my opinion; And of course,
i'm Writing this with no expectation that anyone will read
it"

You: as you say... "Didn't Read A Word (Woid) of it."

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (19)

Count the ha's that's as many Words as You Read; 'Your (my) Quote' Proves it; hehe..;)

21 if You expand the Contractions.

Other than that:

Hello.

Have
A nice Day With SMiLes..:)

The Greatest Wisdom is the Beauty of Courage in Kindness
Other Wise known as the Human Empathy of LoVE iN Truth.

So much more than
'Mental Masturbation' too;

Again Have A Nice
Day; No Matter How you Do That;
But Trust me or not; i am not telling You When, What, or How to Do It..;)

PS... Thanks For Exceeding my Expectations, 19+ Fold;
As Many Years as This Century Currently Offers until
2020 Vision in Change for Now then, too; So much
More Wise in Truth of Love than 'the color Orange' And All 'His' 'Derivatives'...;0


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05 Dec 2019, 10:03 am

auntblabby wrote:
"There are three classes of men; lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of gain." [Plato] the latter two are totally ruining things for the lovers of wisdom here in the land of the wage-slave, home of the unfree.


QFT:

"There are three classes of men; lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of gain." [Plato]
the latter two are totally ruining things for the lovers of wisdom here in the land of the wage-slave,
home of the unfree."

Ain't That The Truth;
So Hard to Escape;
That's Why i Dance, Sing
to myself so much; hehe..;)

There is Also Wisdom of 'Lovers'; Truthfully too
DarK Thru LiGHT Thru DarK Thru LiGHT The Story Never Ends or Begins Now..:)


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05 Dec 2019, 10:05 am

Likely, we all agree on one thing ….

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN


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