UPDATE, Iran shot it's own plane down

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10 Jan 2020, 3:11 pm

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I don't get it? how is the Ukrainian airlines "their own Plane" ?


That gets into a wide conversation about speculation. Said Canadians have intelligence from their own sources. Could be from their satellites, could be from a computer hack, could be a Canadian stationed abroad, are several other "what ifs" for how Canada got information on an Iran/Ukraine affair.



According to the Israeli news there were 60+ Canadian citizens on the plane for some reason. The plane was taking off from Teheran, not even incoming.Not sure of the destination. Ukraine?


Yes. Every newsourse now is saying 63 Canadians were on board. Relative to its population that's like six hundred americans dying all at once. One fifth of 9-11 Hense why Canada is so upset about it.

Kiev Ukraine is just a connection stop for air travel going from North America to Iran, apparently. Hense the number of folks from North American country on the plane.



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10 Jan 2020, 3:23 pm

Iranian anti-aircraft missile error it seems.


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10 Jan 2020, 3:26 pm

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Iranian anti-aircraft missile error, it seems.
That seems to be the odds-on favorite theory among betting circles.


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10 Jan 2020, 4:34 pm

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Conspiracy theory?
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Iran shooting it down is a conspiracy theory. Where's the evidence?

Nice that you think of me though! :heart:


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10 Jan 2020, 4:37 pm

I doubt it. Why would they shoot down a plane when they could have just checked on that plane with air traffic control plus the plane was flying up.


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10 Jan 2020, 4:44 pm

Do you have evidence for your conspiracy theory that it was Iran?


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10 Jan 2020, 4:53 pm

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I doubt it. Why would they shoot down a plane when they could have just checked on that plane with air traffic control plus the plane was flying up.


Actually it happens sometimes here. Our "Iron Dome" has a very sensitive system sometimes triggered into firing on a false alarm. Perhaps the Iranians were taking extra precautions because of the high alert situation and deployed extra protection. It was surely an error. Boeing would prefer that explanation I'm sure :)


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10 Jan 2020, 4:57 pm

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Do you have evidence for your conspiracy theory that it was Iran?
It's a known fact that Iran accidently shot down the Ukrainian airplane.


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Do you have any evidence it was Iran? The irony is that Jones spews a load of tripe with zero evidence.


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10 Jan 2020, 5:06 pm

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Do you have evidence for your conspiracy theory that it was Iran?
It's a known fact that Iran accidently shot down the Ukrainian airplane.


So you can provide the evidence? Please do.


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10 Jan 2020, 5:09 pm

Teach51 wrote:
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I doubt it. Why would they shoot down a plane when they could have just checked on that plane with air traffic control plus the plane was flying up.


Actually it happens sometimes here. Our "Iron Dome" has a very sensitive system sometimes triggered into firing on a false alarm. Perhaps the Iranians were taking extra precautions because of the high alert situation and deployed extra protection. It was surely an error. Boeing would prefer that explanation I'm sure :)


That's cause Iron Dome is a crock. Norman Finkelstein debunked its usefulness. It could have been an accident just doesn't look very likely. No point indulging in conspiracy theories about Iran shooting it down until we have proof.


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10 Jan 2020, 8:02 pm

Why would a missile defense radar be pointed at an international commercial airport? :roll: It never happened in Syria after all the missiles flying around.


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10 Jan 2020, 10:03 pm

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Do you have any evidence it was Iran? The irony is that Jones spews a load of tripe with zero evidence.


That's what I'm saying, I have no evidence it was anybody. :(

It's too early for anyone who's not investigating to speculate, let whomever they are do their jobs.


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10 Jan 2020, 11:33 pm

Iran says it ‘unintentionally’ shot down Ukrainian jetliner

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran announced Saturday that its military “unintentionally” shot down the Ukrainian jetliner that crashed earlier this week, killing all 176 aboard, after the government had repeatedly denied Western accusations that it was responsible.

The plane was shot down early Wednesday, hours after Iran launched a ballistic missile attack on two military bases housing U.S. troops in Iraq in retaliation for the killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in an American airstrike in Baghdad. No one was wounded in the attack on the bases.

A military statement carried by state media said the plane was mistaken for a “hostile target” after it turned toward a “sensitive military center” of the Revolutionary Guard. The military was at its “highest level of readiness,” it said, amid the heightened tensions with the United States.

“In such a condition, because of human error and in a unintentional way, the flight was hit,” the statement said. It apologized for the disaster and said it would upgrade its systems to prevent such “mistakes” in the future.


https://www.wate.com/news/national-worl ... -jetliner/


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