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13 Apr 2020, 11:59 pm

Except that anyone that can read can learn that trumps tax cuts for working class people disappear in a few short years and then they’re stuck with higher taxes And all the debt from the Trillion dollar giveaway to the rich.


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14 Apr 2020, 12:08 am

That is far less likely to shape perception this year than actual current results.



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14 Apr 2020, 1:42 am

So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


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14 Apr 2020, 1:48 am

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I don’t even want to vote now.


same...


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14 Apr 2020, 1:48 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


Does not seem like there is a choice...


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14 Apr 2020, 1:58 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


<hand up>

American politics is very interesting, these days.
I'm trying to keep my "finger on the pulse" of their circus.

As I have said many times, I am in favour of America staying strong so as to be a counterbalance to the growing influence of the ccp.
I don't care if a donkey or an elephant is in charge. :wink:



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14 Apr 2020, 2:05 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


Does not seem like there is a choice...


I can't see how Biden could win against Trump, with his obvious lack of mental cognizance.
The hatred for Trump would have to be astronomical against the orange man.
That is the only way I can see it happen.



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14 Apr 2020, 2:10 am

Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


Does not seem like there is a choice...


I can't see how Biden could win against Trump, with his obvious lack of mental cognizance.
The hatred for Trump would have to be astronomical against the orange man.
That is the only way I can see it happen.


And like last time Trump will get the lion's share of publicity. Even Biden like Hillary will be saying Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump...



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14 Apr 2020, 2:25 am

EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


Does not seem like there is a choice...


I can't see how Biden could win against Trump, with his obvious lack of mental cognizance.
The hatred for Trump would have to be astronomical against the orange man.
That is the only way I can see it happen.


And like last time Trump will get the lion's share of publicity. Even Biden like Hillary will be saying Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump...


I've asked somewhere what Biden's policies are.
No response.
I have considered looking it up, but I think it is pointless, from my perspective, since I very much doubt he will win.

Looks like you are right.
All I hear on my news sources is Trump, Trump, Trump.



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14 Apr 2020, 3:59 am

Pepe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
So...who's up for four more years of this circus?


Does not seem like there is a choice...


I can't see how Biden could win against Trump, with his obvious lack of mental cognizance.
The hatred for Trump would have to be astronomical against the orange man.
That is the only way I can see it happen.


And like last time Trump will get the lion's share of publicity. Even Biden like Hillary will be saying Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump...


I've asked somewhere what Biden's policies are.
No response.
I have considered looking it up, but I think it is pointless, from my perspective, since I very much doubt he will win.

Looks like you are right.
All I hear on my news sources is Trump, Trump, Trump.


His policy is probably the same as Hillary's was; "I'm not Donald Trump".

If only I had a dollar for every time I have read or heard "Trump". I would be as rich as he says he is.



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14 Apr 2020, 4:22 am

You’d think with an approval rating half of what GWB’s was post 9/11 that simply not being trump would be enough to get someone elected this time around.


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14 Apr 2020, 4:30 am

You would think a poll of 1000 blue state people wouldn't really be indicative of how 330 million feel. I wonder if Fox does such polls and if theirs show a much higher approval rating for some (not) mysterious reason.



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14 Apr 2020, 9:25 am

Sanders campaign spokeswoman: 'I don't endorse Joe Biden'

The former press secretary for Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) presidential campaign said Monday that she would not endorse former Vice President Joe Biden, shortly after Sanders appeared in an online video to announce support for his former rival in the general election against President Trump.

Briahna Joy Gray, who was Sanders's national spokeswoman until the campaign was suspended last week, has become a Twitter sensation in recent days for her searing attacks against Biden.

On Monday, just minutes after Sanders and Biden held a joint press conference to talk about how they would work together to defeat Trump, Gray responded on Twitter by saying she would not endorse Biden.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/election ... r-BB12zAEh


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14 Apr 2020, 9:50 am

"Sanders and Biden held a joint press conference to talk about how they would work together to defeat Trump"

There it is. Not win the presidency, but defeat Trump. Let's put Trump in the spotlight as our strategy.

The ballot might was well say Donald Trump or Not Donald Trump.



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14 Apr 2020, 9:58 am

EzraS wrote:
... The ballot might was well say Donald Trump or Not Donald Trump.
That may be how most people are going to vote anyway: "Trump or Not Trump ... that is the question..."


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14 Apr 2020, 10:02 am

Trump or what's-his-name