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30 May 2020, 8:28 am

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With A Song As Metaphor too...



i still Meet Folks Like that
Little Man Cop With Little Man
Syndrome now in the Deep South as
i practice a Mix of Ballet and Martial Arts
Dancing this 13,226 Miles of Public Dance In Trump Town
USA Where the 'Size of the Four Wheel Drive Makes the Man'.

When i was 12, and Very Androgynous Looking; Often Called
Both a Girl and Threatened for Smiling as boys don't get to do that
in First Baptist Land in the Deep south; called The F Word And Not
Fred; Christian Soldier Boys Marching on; i learned all about what Toxic
Patriarchy is first Hand; Fortunately my Law Enforcement Father who did
it for 46 Years as the Longest Working Deputy Sheriff in Florida by News
Paper Report Left at age 3; As otherwise i could have ended Up Just Like Him;
As Environment Plays such a Big Role in who we come to be; he was very Racist;
And there was the day we Met someone very respected who was Black who told us
how he interacted
with Black
Folks
On the
Job; Second hand
of course but usually
i can tell when someone
tells the truth; i will never
call myself a Son of Man; Woman of Love, Yes.

Anyway; as the proof shows on Youtube; i do Leg
Press all the way Now close to 60 Next Saturday
the 6th of June, 1340 Pounds, 12 Reps very slowly, 100 Seconds
at a 90 Degree Angle On You Tube; Not Unlike Bugs Bunny;
when a little Man is trying to prove he is not a little man when
i am Public Dancing at 240 Pounds so Graceful Like A Butterfly with Wings;
i just whip
out all
6 inches
of Smart Phone
And Show Him
What the end of one
of my Martial Art Kicks
Would Feel Like at the End of His Life.

They go on their Merry way
as their Four Wheel Drive Lover
is waiting for them; and my
Beautiful
Wife
is just
Waiting to make me Happy.

There are reasons why Humans do what they do.

All i had to see was that Cop's Body Language to
See the HIStory
of His Life:

Toxic
Patriarchy;
The Stone that
Crushes A Skull of Love;
All That's Left is Living Bones.

There is no Hero Without Empathy, Compassion, and Love.
There is No Man; There is No Woman; There is not even any In Between;
There is No 'Human'
And there
Surely
Is No
'God of Love'
Breathing Within;
This is what God is Dead REALLY Means.

And Yes of course the Folks Who are Not
Peacefully Protesting And Are Destroying
the Livelihood Of Others have a similar Problem;

There isn't Much Separating That Cop With A Bended Knee From them;
And of course by the same 'Token'; that applies To Others with the same Mentality
of
'Might
Makes Right';
Live By The 'Loot'
Die by the 'Loot'
of course
that
includes
Looting any
Freedoms of Other
Folks With Harm; there
is A Greater Way of Life: Love.

But Again, if my Father Had Stayed
There is the Real Potential i could
have wore A 'Bended Knee Badge' too;
This Makes
Forgiveness,
Mending
And
Healing
of Soul With Love
A Greatest Way to Breathe.

'Feral Cats' 'Who' Kill For a Living with NO MERCY WILL Become
'Lap Cats'; Perhaps there is some glimmer of Hope somewhere for 'Trumps'.

Or maybe
They never
Had a Mother,
Sister, or Wife like me.

There is a 'Devil' in all of Us.
The Solution is to Master our
Shadow (Masculine) with Love (Divine Feminine)
Never Fearing Wearing Super Man Panties and Tights.

i make this Point Wearing Less;
But it is also only a Poem for those who 'See' IT;
As That Applies to Verse 37 From the Gospel of Thomas.

It seems very likely the 'Real Jesus' Was Just A Naturist who Saw God as Nature too;

'That God' Is Naked And Free from 'CuLTuRaL Clothes; ViRuS of Human'; Hiding Love
Deepest Down High;

Looting The Rest of
Nature As the
Most Ignorant Riot of All;
Sadly Most of Us Don't Realize
it of Course; Definition oF iGnorance;
Veils Hidden From Truth iN Light. Yes,
This is More Than a Twitter Breath; But We Got Huuuuge Problems too..;)

And Back to the Abortion thingie; Science Doesn't Lie; Where Abortion
Is Not Legal, there is More Human Suffering And Misery in Terms
of Maiming, Permanent Disability, and Death; Abortion is Part
of Mammal Nature; And as Long as we are Classically Evolved
As We are Now; Making it illegal makes it less humane.

Again;
Either We Can AND WILL
Do It A Humane way;
or Might Makes Right as Wrong;
It's no Different than a Knee on a Black Man's Neck.

If You've ever really suffered in Life; as of course i have
with the Worst Pain Known to Humankind from Wake to Sleep
Shut-in for 66 Months; Yes, assessed literally as worse than the Real Torture
of Crucifixion; Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia; You Learn the lesson of least
harm AS MERCY; You don't
Keep Your
Knee
on someone's
Neck when they say they
can't breathe; And No; You don't
take the livelihood of someone else
away to make a Point that will be made better with Love;
Or find another 'Bugs Bunny' Who Can; And Will Without Destruction;
And on Top of that there are no Catholic Peaceful Protests Hidden with
Coat Hangers in Back
Alleys;

Don't
Dig
A Deeper
Hole of Hell.

Sadly; there doesn't Seem to be
Any Politicians SmART Enough to
Express it in this Way With Art;
That's
not
Surprising;
as at core most
Folks become Politicians for Power
And Status Never Feeling Freedom of Art Within.

i guess there is Hope as George W. Bush Paints Picture of Puppy Dogs Now;

Only if Before... Could have Saved Another 100,000 or so Brown Lives.... 'over THere'...

The Value of Art: Life.

Please Understand This is my 'Riot' (Rite)...
i promise i won't Harm anyone; Just
Scroll by, if it is much too Large to See; not unlike my Dance...

"Do You Know Me Really Know Me"
"It's Not my Responsibility"
No Matter What Size of Breath i am Naked EYes of God

Holy Sacred Creative Spirit is Real And Surely
Not Limited to Only 'One Cover of A Book';
The Same Applies to Love and the Rest
of Nature Real; Some Folk Believe
They Will Imprison IT (God) in Smaller
or Larger Sizes of 'Breath' They Never Will For It (God) is Free


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30 May 2020, 11:29 am

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You’d feel different if it was your business or home burning down. And they might been people killed inside the buildings.


The white conservative would feel different if it was their father or son or brother who was shot. The white conservative struggles to show concern for police violence because he knows on some level that the police are on his side. The police in this country are far less concerned with justice and supposedly constitutionally-guaranteed rights than they are with protecting the property of those privileged enough to have it. If a black man is killed by police, the conservative frets for his property. They fret for their property and others' and treat damage to property as evidence of "both sides" being at fault. They do this regardless of if anyone is actually harmed during the protests and riots they decry. Killing American citizens =/= blocking traffic and burning storefronts. The former is a result of institutional racism. The latter is a result of infuriated Americans who actually care if the government kills its citizens. Property is replaceable. The lives of those killed by police are not.
And I say again: American police are either dangerously racist or dangerously incompetent. But they do not threaten the conservative's property, so why make such a big deal about it?

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By the way, regarding the issue as to whether police favors liberals or conservatives, here is a food for thought. Police is tougher on men then on women. So that aspect sound feminist, aka liberal. Yet it is tougher on blacks than on whites, so that aspect sounds conservative. So which way is it?


Police being harder on men than on women is a feminist issue. Contrary to what 99% of conservatives I've talked to believe, feminism is about creating equality for the sexes. This absolutely includes inequality as it affects men. Cops do not target women less because they are somehow less predisposed to commit crimes. They sure as hell don't target women less because they're feminists. Cops do not target women because cops are mostly men, and we live in a society where women are considered inherently less violent and more innocent. The idea that feminists only care about women's rights is an infuriatingly widespread misconception that even many misandrist "feminists" believe.

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I think its neither liberal nor conservative. Rather, police favors the groups of people that, statistically, commit less crime. Women statistically commit less crime than men. So police favors women. Whites statistically commit less crime than blacks. So police favors Whites.

I am not saying its right or wrong. I am just drawing your attention to bigger picture in terms of what it "is".


It is absolutely conservative. The police have always been on the conservative side because they have always been on the propertied side, the side of the capitalist wealthy. The police were the ones who enforced de jure racism then and de facto racism now. They uphold the plantation-owner's hold on his slaves then and they uphold the private prison-owner's hold on his slaves now. (Mass incarceration is a means of providing the latter with a slave workforce). Police favor those who are white, Christian, and conservative. There are exceptions, but that is the rule. Police overlook the crimes of the white man while overpolicing and terrorizing black communities. If you are a racist cop and you believe blacks necessarily commit more crimes than whites, then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. (It also ignores that most violent crime in this country is committed by whites, in and out of uniform).
Crime seems disproportionate among the black community to the white man as a result of a chain of self-perpetuating racism that goes back hundreds of years: The black man is inferior -> the black man is less than human, an animal -> the black man is dangerous -> the black man is undesirable in our communities -> the black man is undesirable as a prospective employee -> the black man is predisposed to unemployment and poverty -> (poverty is one of the greatest predictors of crime, but don't tell the capitalist that) -> police throughout this country's history believe these racist things -> police treat black men as more dangerous than white men, inferior to white men -> black men are policed with more "scrutiny" than white men -> those *convicted* of crimes are disproportionately black -> the black community needs to be cracked down on by the police to maintain "law and order" -> black men are policed with more "scrutiny" than white men -> those *convicted* of crimes are disproportionately black -> etc. etc.
The police are not rational in their disproportionate targeting of black men. The basis for it is racist, cyclical, and self-sustaining. This is why a career in law enforcement is so appealing to this country's white supremacists. There are police officers who do not consciously think all of the things I've listed, but they are all nonetheless caught up in the cycle. And their more consciously racist colleagues violently suppress any scrutiny of the police because they know what the public will uncover if they did deep enough and they fear they will not be able to keep using their position to do what started all this to begin with. Killing and enslaving black Americans.


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30 May 2020, 5:30 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
You’d feel different if it was your business or home burning down. And they might been people killed inside the buildings.


The white conservative would feel different if it was their father or son or brother who was shot. The white conservative struggles to show concern for police violence because he knows on some level that the police are on his side. The police in this country are far less concerned with justice and supposedly constitutionally-guaranteed rights than they are with protecting the property of those privileged enough to have it. If a black man is killed by police, the conservative frets for his property. They fret for their property and others' and treat damage to property as evidence of "both sides" being at fault. They do this regardless of if anyone is actually harmed during the protests and riots they decry. Killing American citizens =/= blocking traffic and burning storefronts. The former is a result of institutional racism. The latter is a result of infuriated Americans who actually care if the government kills its citizens. Property is replaceable. The lives of those killed by police are not.


That's where I would disagree, some folks pour their lifeblood into a store, then to see it looted and ruined, and justify that in any way, is anarchy. I believe in law and order, and order is never going to be as perfect as everyone wants, because why? because people are human and imperfect, including police, and police have to use force, and sometimes they get it wrong. There is always going to be a killing, that won't change in this violent country of 300 million where people are riding around with pistols.

Back in the day there was a lot more police brutality, people just don't remember, and police got away with it too, there were no bodycams and no videos, things did not make the news. Detectives beat the crap out of suspects to get confessions. Nowadays, there is camera footage and big headlines from any brutality, and police lose their job at a minimum, or get prosecuted also and go to jail. That is huge progress but no one is happy about it, instead they want to riot and destroy things because they hate their country. Spoiled brats that know nothing about history, don't appreciate how much things have improved from the past.

You got bad apples in any profession. Root them out, fire/prosecute as needed, but people that are rioting, if the military needs to be called out, it is ready to do the job. Martial law needs to be in effect when riots take place, strict curfews.

The police are accepting applications, but I don't see any of the protesters lining up to join and make things better. It's a tough job, not many liberals want to dodge bullets and fists for a living and tussle with meth-heads. You expect police to deal with mentally ill, homeless, drug addicts and overdoses then also all the crime, it is not a pretty scene. Police are the country's social workers, child care advocates, homeless helpers, drug abuse prevention and then all the crime and domestic violence.

Anytime the police do something right, no one hears about it, no one cares, the news gets buried, it does not suit anybody's agenda. And the police do something right most of the time, just read your local police blotter, I bet you don't know half the stuff they are dealing with, hint: it is not arresting pot-smokers or crashing parties.

One bad apple, the whole world hears about that and nothing else, and it becomes the excuse for anarchy, looting, arson and beating up Whitey.


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30 May 2020, 7:33 pm

Gentleman Argentum wrote:
Back in the day there was a lot more police brutality, people just don't remember, and police got away with it too, there were no bodycams and no videos, things did not make the news. Detectives beat the crap out of suspects to get confessions. Nowadays, there is camera footage and big headlines from any brutality, and police lose their job at a minimum, or get prosecuted also and go to jail. That is huge progress but no one is happy about it, instead they want to riot and destroy things because they hate their country. Spoiled brats that know nothing about history, don't appreciate how much things have improved from the past.


Video footage can hold some police account in cases, and through it have been finding things like police officers planting drugs on black people so they can get arrested and footage that showed that a police officer acted hasty in going for his gun to shoot some black guy down. But there have also been a number of cases where police officers would turn off their bodycam, plant the evidence, and then turn it on and show up. That they can still get away with pretty much murder by saying that they feared for their life, which apparently casted enough doubt for the courts to let them go regardless of what the footage showed.

Two of the most recent cases that in sighted these riots were of a police officer and ex-police officer on footage clearly killing a black man completely unnecessarily, and the law decided to not to arrest either of the people in these cases, let alone fairly convict them. Video released to the general public has created the outcry to actually have these white men that killed black men for no reason, be actually arrested at least, but it is ridiculous that it takes this public outcry for that to happen. Can you imagine the cases that are also happening that just are not having video released to the public and or less explicit but should still be pretty clear evidence of police brutality?

Maybe police brutality used to be worse, but it is still happening where if they are not trained to be scared of a black man, they are being hired while holding implicit biases, and white right-wingers would like to pretend it is not happening. So much so that when a protestor tries to take a knee as a part of non-violent protests they act like he is sitting on the flag, making things overly political, they won't listen. If they actually cared about non-violent protests, then they would have listened to the people that took the knee, rather than ignore until people had enough after the police took a knee to their throats. Everyone who ignored or called for Kaepernick to be fired, is complicit that people felt that they had to do these violent protests to be heard.


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30 May 2020, 9:50 pm

Maybe we should change the laws to where anyone who isn’t a white, straight, cis, Christian male should be above the law and even the slightest criticism of those groups should be considered hate speech.


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30 May 2020, 10:43 pm

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Maybe we should change the laws to where anyone who isn’t a white, straight, cis, Christian male should be above the law and even the slightest criticism of those groups should be considered hate speech.


Or maybe bring cultural change, try and stop people from being discriminated against for not being white, not being straight, not being cis, not being a Christian or not being male. Stop police from feeling afraid of someone for being black. Allow gay and bi people to be with who they want without slurs thrown at them, receive the same rights as straight couples. Stop scaremongering over transgender people being dangerous like people would use it to fondle children in public bathrooms. Stop acting like being a Christian is like the pinnacle of morality so atheists have no morals, Jewish people are part of some global conspiracy, and Muslims are automatically evil. And stop having a society where calling someone a girl is an insult, where men get criticised for any femininity, and women get taken less seriously even about their own bodies.

Answers to problems like this don't come from just saying to make a law where certain people are above the law, but understand deep cultural problems that need to be changed over time, and special effort needs to be put into places like the police to hold themselves at a higher standard to be aware of their own bias, so that they don't just perpetuate victimization. Because it is pretty clear there is bias when the man in the big house will call one group fine people who need to be listened to, and another as just a bunch of thugs, that one group can exercise all the protests it wants, while the other is being uncivil for simply taking a knee.

The thing is, that white, Christian, straight cis, Christian males were already receiving special protection via aspects of the system, that they have been crying for years over oppression from system just starting to be leveled.


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30 May 2020, 10:57 pm

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Maybe we should change the laws to where anyone who isn’t a white, straight, cis, Christian male should be above the law and even the slightest criticism of those groups should be considered hate speech.


Maybe let's start with valuing other people's lives, rights and interests on part with white, straight, cis, Christian men before we go doing anything crazy Tim.


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31 May 2020, 4:12 pm

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That's where I would disagree, some folks pour their lifeblood into a store, then to see it looted and ruined, and justify that in any way, is anarchy.


The conservative capitalist believes that the effort put into creating and maintaining a business outweighs the love and care put into raising a son. I reiterate: property can be replaced, businesses can be rebuilt. Can the same be said of our sons and brothers? Our fathers? The conservative resists criticism of the police tooth and nail in the present day. Only the police of the past deserve criticism. Only the civil rights activists of the past deserve respect. You think the white conservatives of Alabama admired civil rights protesters for their non-violence? They didn't then, and they don't now. Non-violence is never non-violent enough.

Gentleman Argentum wrote:
Back in the day there was a lot more police brutality, people just don't remember, and police got away with it too, there were no bodycams and no videos, things did not make the news. Detectives beat the crap out of suspects to get confessions. Nowadays, there is camera footage and big headlines from any brutality, and police lose their job at a minimum, or get prosecuted also and go to jail. That is huge progress but no one is happy about it, instead they want to riot and destroy things because they hate their country. Spoiled brats that know nothing about history, don't appreciate how much things have improved from the past.


People remember very, very well. And police still get away with it. No one forgets that more than the white conservative who has never faced these injustices. The conservative convinces himself otherwise because he is hopelessly oblivious to the black perspective. Conservatives lack perspective beyond the mainstream, conventional, white-friendly, government-friendly version of history. And conservatives still wonder why they have so much support from white supremacists, and not so much support from those their party once freed. Conservatives decry the increased attention that police brutality has received in just the last decade. If they "hate their country" (such a tired, tired conservative platitude), it is because it has not lived up to the promises of equality, freedom, due process, and government accountability. Conservatives of yesteryear accused the likes of MLK of hating his country. Many of them still do. To the conservative, love of one's country seems more to me like love for the country as it is. Love for the status quo, because it is the American status quo. And the status quo benefits the white capitalist more than anyone else. The white conservative lacks the perspective to consider how or why others do not like the status quo as he does.


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31 May 2020, 9:17 pm

Caught on camera false flag.


Cop using violence on innocent protestors not showing signs of any violence.


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And I say again: American police are either dangerously racist or dangerously incompetent. But they do not threaten the conservative's property, so why make such a big deal about it?


more like dangerously undertrained and underscrutinized. most police in the US receive mere weeks of training and they will take literally anyone, almost. and then they are given lethal weapons....
the whole profession attracts a lot of aggressive people who have always wanted to commit violence and now they may have a chance to get away with it. normal people see acts of police brutality, who get away with it (rarely with little more than a slap on the wrist) and are sickened, these cretins see it and are emboldened.

action in the US is only ever taken when a wealthy, powerful person's property is affected it seems.

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01 Jun 2020, 12:41 am

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roronoa79 wrote:
And I say again: American police are either dangerously racist or dangerously incompetent. But they do not threaten the conservative's property, so why make such a big deal about it?


more like dangerously undertrained and underscrutinized. most police in the US receive mere weeks of training and they will take literally anyone, almost. and then they are given lethal weapons....
the whole profession attracts a lot of aggressive people who have always wanted to commit violence and now they may have a chance to get away with it. normal people see acts of police brutality, who get away with it (rarely with little more than a slap on the wrist) and are sickened, these cretins see it and are emboldened.

action in the US is only ever taken when a wealthy, powerful person's property is affected it seems.

"i didn't think they'd try to destroy MY property!! !"

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Gated communities are just horrible bubbles....I'd never want to live in one, even if I had the money to.

QFT.



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Gated communities are just horrible bubbles....I'd never want to live in one, even if I had the money to.

QFT.


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auntblabby wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Gated communities are just horrible bubbles....I'd never want to live in one, even if I had the money to.

QFT.


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01 Jun 2020, 7:16 am

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Maybe we should change the laws to where anyone who isn’t a white, straight, cis, Christian male should be above the law and even the slightest criticism of those groups should be considered hate speech.


Oh Kayyy. 8O
Or should that be O-KKK? :mrgreen:

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Bwahahahahahaha! :twisted:

Wolfram87 wrote:
QFT wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Gated communities are just horrible bubbles....I'd never want to live in one, even if I had the money to.

QFT.


What are you trying to say to me?


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Actually, auntblabby used to be a quantum physicist.
He is clearly invoking the "Quantum Field Theory". 8)


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