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13 Aug 2007, 4:48 am

I agree: it is very rare for anyone or any group to be either totally correct or totally incorrect in their opinions.


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13 Aug 2007, 6:46 am

pwn3d by logic : )



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13 Aug 2007, 1:24 pm

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pwn3d by logic : )

Not at all. As has been stated by others in this thread, opinions in this kind of discussion are seldom mutually exclusive. Kindergarten logic of the type "if it's this it can't be that" isn't especially useful. Anyway, as has been pointed out, you don't even live in the UK, so your only source of information is likely to be the BBC and British government propaganda that paints the picture that we're all revelling in our "cultural diversity", happy to see our country swamped by masses of immigrants who don't even learn to speak our language ( including a significant minority with a religiously-derived penchant for mass-murder), and who get preferential treatment before the law, as I've asserted previously in this thread.

As for those Guardian-reading liberals, most would agree with the basic facts I've stated, but most likely couch any explanation in terms of "positive discrimination", "affirmative action", "cultural differences" and other such nefarious gobbledegook. These types place no value on individual freedom, and want the state to dictate exactly what's good, and what's bad; what we should think, and what we shouldn't. To their warped way of thinking discrimination against white people is good.

Here's another "anecdote", as you put it, regarding the BBC. As you'll know, the BBC is the state-sponsored news organisation of the UK. In other words, we pay for it through taxation. Even those who run it admit that it's biased toward the immigrants who now flock to the UK:

P Revoir in The Mail wrote:
During the meeting, hosted by Sue Lawley, executives admitted they would happily broadcast the image of a Bible being thrown away - but would not do the same for the Koran.

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13 Aug 2007, 4:48 pm

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Of course, those in high-paying jobs, and our political masters do not have to live in the ethnically "enriched" ghettos that ordinary white working-class folk have to.


So whites are second class citizens, except when they're not?

Please address the issue of wealth distribution. It seems to me that "second class citizens" by definition are underrepresented in positions of wealth and power. If you can show me data proving that this is true of british whites, I may take your assertion that whites are second class citizens more seriously.


Beautifulspam, you are focusing on equality of outcome. Do you even care about equality before the law? Or are you one of these hardcore socialists who believe in unequal treatment as a means to achieve “equality” as an end?

The fact is that the state-sponsored discrimination in Britain is against the indigenous whites, and especially the English.
You can read about several instances in an article I’ve recently posted in WP.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... c&p=849685
This is one of the extremely rare instances when anyone in the mainstream media actually dares to tell the truth about what’s going on in this country.

I used to think like you, though. I used to dismiss people’s concerns about the treatment of white people in Britain. It takes time and effort to understand what’s going on, and to undo the indoctrination that tells people that “positive discrimination” is somehow necessary, and that moral worth derives from putting the interests of other ethnic groups before your own. So I doubt the article I’ve posted will have much effect on its own.

I’m assuming here that you are white, btw. Maybe you’re not?

Anyway, since you seem so focused on equality of outcome, I’ll mention one area of life in the UK where whites are hugely underrepresented: places in medical school. No taxpayer-funded body gives a toss about this situation, but if blacks or Asians are underrepresented in any area of life, be it the media, politics or fishing, it’s supposed to be a matter of huge national concern.



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13 Aug 2007, 5:16 pm

I think it's a ploy to get more citizens on the government's teet as so to remain in power. I think the country needs another Thatcher.



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13 Aug 2007, 5:45 pm

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13 Aug 2007, 5:49 pm

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Not at all. As has been stated by others in this thread, opinions in this kind of discussion are seldom mutually exclusive. Kindergarten logic of the type "if it's this it can't be that" isn't especially useful.



The principle of non contradiction (for every statement P, either P or not P) is the foundation of all rational thought. Kindergarten logic? For shame!

As usual, I see you have only more anecdotes to back up your claims. Please provide some solid evidence or at least respond to the parts of my argument that you have ignored.



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13 Aug 2007, 9:53 pm

beautifulspam wrote:
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Not at all. As has been stated by others in this thread, opinions in this kind of discussion are seldom mutually exclusive. Kindergarten logic of the type "if it's this it can't be that" isn't especially useful.



The principle of non contradiction (for every statement P, either P or not P) is the foundation of all rational thought. Kindergarten logic? For shame!

As usual, I see you have only more anecdotes to back up your claims. Please provide some solid evidence or at least respond to the parts of my argument that you have ignored.



Very elementary and very wrong. What is A+5=B then?


Variables exist in many forms. Can not both British Whites and Visible Minorites be discriminated against? Yes, they can! Maybe in different ways, but definetly both can feel the effects.



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19 Aug 2007, 5:09 pm

Some customers with very low self esteem and racist tendencies initiate these incidents in shops and restaurants especially.Its a hazard of working in the service sector I`m afraid.Don`t worry about it-if your boss doesn`t back you up hes not worth working for.



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20 Aug 2007, 10:18 am

agmoie wrote:
Some customers with very low self esteem and racist tendencies initiate these incidents in shops and restaurants especially.Its a hazard of working in the service sector I`m afraid.Don`t worry about it-if your boss doesn`t back you up hes not worth working for.
I wondered about that myself. Some of these incidents do appear contrived.


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