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27 Jun 2020, 9:58 am

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"Plantation" in this context meant "colony"... remember Ulster Plantation?


Yes. Its like the town of "Moose Factory" Ontario. From the name it sounds like a place where fully grown bullmooses come off an assembly line. Perhaps with the final step being the guys lower the antlers on its head while two other guys spot weld them on, just before the animals are sent off to the show room.

But actually it's the 17th century meaning of the word "factory" which is not a place where manufacturing goes on, but a place where "factoring" goes on. Factoring meaning wheeling, dealing, trading, and bartering. It was probably a town built around fur trading post back in the day where European traders made deals with the local Indians to get beaver belts for export, or like that. And the Moose part is just an identifier.



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29 Jun 2020, 2:55 pm

Providence Plantations had nothing to do with slavery.



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29 Jun 2020, 3:01 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Yes. Its like the town of "Moose Factory" Ontario. From the name it sounds like a place where fully grown bullmooses come off an assembly line. Perhaps with the final step being the guys lower the antlers on its head while two other guys spot weld them on, just before the animals are sent off to the show room.

But actually...


No! This is canon now.


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29 Jun 2020, 4:00 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Yes. Its like the town of "Moose Factory" Ontario. From the name it sounds like a place where fully grown bullmooses come off an assembly line. Perhaps with the final step being the guys lower the antlers on its head while two other guys spot weld them on, just before the animals are sent off to the show room.

But actually...


No! This is canon now.


:lol:

Ok...we will go with that!



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01 Jul 2020, 6:12 am

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Charles surname is Mountbatten-Windsor. The surnames of the royals is a weird thing, they use different ones due to family or land entitlements. Harry is sometimes called Harry Windsor and sometimes Harry Wales. And his real name isnt even Harry anyway!

What a confused mixed up bunch. :lol:
Wonder why Victoria didn't come up with something clever to save the Hanover name then.

Victoria was a Victorian (stating the obvious I know!) and didn’t really believe in challenging a woman’s place in society. Even when she became Queen, she continued to live with her mother (whom she hated) until she got married, as was the custom at the time.

Contrastingly, Elizabeth had another hundred years of social progress to build on. Women had the vote and could own property in their own right. Elizabeth and many women like her had supported the war effort by doing jobs that had previously been reserved for men. She would have thought about the institution of marriage and a woman’s place in society rather differently to Victoria.



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01 Jul 2020, 8:27 am

Rhode Island was named due to a coin toss. They rolled heads.

If they had rolled tails, it would have been called Cacapoopoopeepeeshire.


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01 Jul 2020, 8:43 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Rhode Island was named due to a coin toss. They rolled heads.

If they had rolled tails, it would have been called Cacapoopoopeepeeshire.
Anything is possible.

Rhode Island was originally a Island of misfit toys if you will,of people who's religious beliefs fell outside the strict orthodoxy the puritan Massachusetts colony.People banished from Massachusetts for not being viewed as true puritans,a land of exiles,that was Rhode Island.


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01 Jul 2020, 11:49 am

The_Walrus wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Charles surname is Mountbatten-Windsor. The surnames of the royals is a weird thing, they use different ones due to family or land entitlements. Harry is sometimes called Harry Windsor and sometimes Harry Wales. And his real name isnt even Harry anyway!

What a confused mixed up bunch. :lol:
Wonder why Victoria didn't come up with something clever to save the Hanover name then.

Victoria was a Victorian (stating the obvious I know!) and didn’t really believe in challenging a woman’s place in society. Even when she became Queen, she continued to live with her mother (whom she hated) until she got married, as was the custom at the time.

Contrastingly, Elizabeth had another hundred years of social progress to build on. Women had the vote and could own property in their own right. Elizabeth and many women like her had supported the war effort by doing jobs that had previously been reserved for men. She would have thought about the institution of marriage and a woman’s place in society rather differently to Victoria.


Wait a minute.

All of that "Hanover" stuff, and all of that "Saxe-Coburg" stuff in the complicated royal names? Is that what you all are talking about?

Since the late 1700s the British Royal family has really been a German royal family.

The Royals deliberate axed all of that German sounding "Hanover" and "Saxe-Koburg" stuff during ...guess when???

World War One!! !!

Thats when they all changed their names to "Windsor" to sound purely British. Or that's my understanding of it.

Queen Victoria died in 1903. That was eleven years before the Great War broke out. So she didnt yet see the need for that PR change in name.



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01 Jul 2020, 12:31 pm

^^^
You basically have the gist of it,WW1 was the likely motive for the name change to Windsor.

Wherever you go in the world you find politics disfuctional.


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04 Jul 2020, 1:24 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Yes. Its like the town of "Moose Factory" Ontario. From the name it sounds like a place where fully grown bullmooses come off an assembly line. Perhaps with the final step being the guys lower the antlers on its head while two other guys spot weld them on, just before the animals are sent off to the show room.

But actually...


No! This is canon now.


... and Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, is where one of their suppliers was based.


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