Trump retweets video of armed couple menacing protesters

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Yelling isn’t the issue it’s what they yell.

Can I protest say “ only good liberal is a dead liberal”
“ what do we want.. dead liberals”
“ f**k liberals”
“ all liberals are nazis”

Do you think liberals would find such a protest peaceful?

How do you think they’d feel if we marched through their neighborhood doing it.
Adding “ this is our streets”

I’d be find if they jusr marched saying can’t breath, no justice no peace, justice for Floyd, etc
But they’d rather scream hate and immidation. They shouldn’t be surprised when they met with hate and defensiveness in return.
Most in my neighborhood didn’t want them here.
As people have said everyone was on their side but now they’ve lost most people.
The message is lost, thrown away by the protesters who’d rather preach hate.
They hate anyone who doesn’t now support their hate. TheyLl attack you for disagreeing or just looking like who they think would disgeee. Better not have an American flag on your house misslizard, cause then you’re a racist nazi who needs to be killed. Wearing certain clothes? Racist nazi who needs to be killed
God forbid you have bald head or short hair.
Given yiur from country, I’d imagine you dress country, yiud most certainly be deemed racist nazi.
My neighborhood is either country people or upper middle class. So they came marched here and called us all Racist.
People who came out to support them but didn’t look like it by how they dressed or color of their skin got called nazis and had threats yelled at them.

So no I won’t be going to any of their protests ever. I’d like not come back alive if I did. I’m sure I don’t look like a blm, black unity, or whatever the other two groups call themselves.

They all hypocrites too
One secon they saying abolish police, all cops are bastards, next it’s help someone call the police. You mean the bastard nazi police hi you want abolished , now you want them to help you. Shouldn’t they do their own policing like they fighting to have happen.
They just as bad as the anti vaccine people who say doctors are evil but when they get hurt go to hospital.
Where’s the standard to yiur cause.
I wouldn’t push to ban spaghetti while secretly eating it.
Or politicians who want to ban all guns while they habe 20 armed guard with machine guns around them all the time.

If you pushing to have police abolished you shouldn’t call them for help. Live by example.

Mean say they horrible happens, they get what they want police are abolished. Now at a protest someone attacks them , who will they call?

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If people get up in your face yelling, you don’t have to yell back.
You don’t have to believe me.
Believe the US Army.

FM 3-19.15
Civil Disturbance Operations
Department of Army
Avoid Confrontation
2-22. Crowd situations are highly unpredictable, but one thing seems certain—confrontation will likely cause crowd resistance. When pushed, people tend to resist opposition to the realization of their purposes.

Do you see the whole crowd. Guess you missed the scene in cities all over of people throwing molotov cocktails at buildings and police cars. How do you supoose all those cop cars and buildings burnt down?
They started fires here in my area with just a lighter and some paper. Paper burns it see,s I used some to start my bbq last night.

But hey you’re safe in country so who cares if people in the city get their homes burnt down.

Well I live in a city. As far as I can tell not a single “protest” is happening in any country area. You’d feel different if it was happening. Where you live, if it was just some scene on tv. I wish it could be just some scene on tv for me.

So just lay down open you’re wall ent and let them have their way with you.

Friends no one in my neighborhood yelled at them except one guy who they attacked for having the American flag.

But I’ve found ignoring people won’t make them stop, it just makes them get angry and goes louder and more agreesive..

But i dont know where you get this dies stuck in your head that me a socially shy almost mute at sometimes is out yelling back at “protesters “

My shy submissive nature means I hide. It’s part of why I own and carry a gun. I’m not a fighter. I’m not aggressive. My instinct is to run and hide, but if that’s not option and I can’t fight I want to be able to defend myself.
It’s also my responsibility to defend my family if time comes. There’s no other males in my family.

I don’t think the Army lays down for anyone.Its from their manual.
I never said you yelled at anyone.
The couple did.

BAN SPAGHETTI!! !

It’s not so black and white as eliminate police entirely. People are calling for police to be defunded because their budgets have swollen to $1B+/yr in major cities and they’ve been spending it on militarizing themselves by buying up military hardware, weapons, body armour, armoured vehicles etc (which the military industrial complex must just LOVE for all the extra sales!) & the accompanying military training.

Police forces are not armies. They don’t Need any of that crap. And the stats are in: The more of that crap they have, the more they use it on citizens - getting aggressive and violent, using excessive force etc. Dress them up like soldiers going into battle and that’s how they behave.

Civilized society has had enough of police beating and killing citizens, hence the demands to reduce their budgets and spend the money on things that actually reduce crime, like social workers, detox centres, affordable housing and other social programs.

Police still have a role in society, but the one they’ve been playing is wrong. They shouldn’t be showing up to minor domestic disputes or bylaw infractions ready to go to war. It’s killing people - more than 1,000 Americans per year gunned down by police. That is not normal. Well, it’s become normalized in the USA, but it is not the norm in almost any other country not the planet. Police are supposed to enforce laws and being criminals to be tried in the criminal justice system, not execute them whether they’re guilty or not.

Several observations about the incident:

1) The woman has no discernible trigger discipline. She was pointing the handgun at the crowd with her finger on the trigger. She's real lucky that she didn't kill anyone.

2) The man was better, but far from good. It would have been far better to have the rifle pointing down. At least he didn't keep his finger on the trigger.

3) The two of them were sitting targets. If anyone in the crowd felt like their life was in serious danger and resorted to self defense the one or both of the couple would have been easy targets.

4) It turns out that the real purpose of all that was that the couple is trying to claim land owned by the neighborhood association as theirs by adverse possession. There is currently a lawsuit about it.

5) They were trying to bolster their claim of adverse possession by chasing people off.

6) When the couple bought the house, they didn't have the property surveyed. It's not surprising that they didn't know what they bought and what they didn't buy.

7) They have used firearms in the past against a neighbor who was crossing the property they are trying to take by adverse possession.

8 ) After the incident in question, a security guard opened another gate so that the protesters could enter the neighborhood away from the two twit's house.

9) They have now hired a private security firm to guard their property.

In short, this wasn't about self defense at all. It's all about claiming land as theirs that they clearly do not own.

Quite the update.

I hope they go to jail.

So the "stand your ground" law doesn't apply to them? maybe the police weren't aware?

Not entirely to do with this specific incident, but,
it's really interesting to see so many people stating their opinions about the various protests that have occurred over the last few months, and to try to get an idea of how informed any of the people expressing their opinions are as well as see the bias of some of those opinions.
Some of it is also pretty terrifying sometimes, seeing who takes which side regarding which issues, and how informed they seem to be. I'm really wondering what things are going to be like in mid november.

Some people would see my remarks as being on the side of the protesters (see above). In reality, I'm more interested in truth. I detest protests and protesters with a passion -- I don't care who they are or what they are protesting.

But I see the ignorant actions taken by the McCloskeys in their efforts to take the land by adverse possession to be even worse.

They are just awful people.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/07/cou ... ghborhood/

LMFAO!!

Truth comes out...

And now the whole world knows what jerks they are, busting up kid’s beehives...homophobic bee killers.Who in their right mind would want to kill honeybees???
I hope they get stung by murder hornets.A whole swarm just flies in their window one bright day.

Seems the state's governor has his own opinion regarding what happened:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507988-missouri-governor-says-hed-pardon-st-louis-couple-if-they-are-charged

So yet another legal investigation. This time if you can threaten trespassers on your place of residence with loaded semi-automatic weapons?

A few things to consider
- do they legally own the land they renovated the house on?
- does the status of the property mean that protestors arriving on the lawn constitutes trespass?
- If the first two points are valid then does threatening people with loaded weapons a criminal act?

Is this one of the states that practices a "stand your ground law"?