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23 Sep 2020, 2:54 pm
Orwell is a well-known socialist and well-respected by most on the left.
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23 Sep 2020, 3:00 pm
Paying taxes isn't fascism, it's part of living with a functional government. Trump has demonstrated that he wishes to use tax cuts to transfer wealth from working Americans to the wealthy and multinational corporations (just like every other thieving GOP politician).
Taxes are unavoidable in any civilized society, it's just a matter of who pays what and how the money collected is spent. Personally I'd argue America has more important things to spend money on besides subsidies for multinationals and cutting taxes for billionaires.
23 Sep 2020, 3:21 pm
Orwell is a well-known socialist and well-respected by most on the left.
Just to be clear, Orwell was a supporter of democratic socialism. There is a difference.
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23 Sep 2020, 3:23 pm
Orwell is a well-known socialist and well-respected by most on the left.
Just to be clear, Orwell was a supporter of democratic socialism. There is a difference.
Are you suggesting most the American left isn't dominated by social democrats and democratic socialists?
Orwell would be 'to the left' of most prominent contemporary American leftists.
23 Sep 2020, 3:30 pm
Paying taxes isn't fascism, it's part of living with a functional government. Trump has demonstrated that he wishes to use tax cuts to transfer wealth from working Americans to the wealthy and multinational corporations (just like every other thieving GOP politician).
Taxes are unavoidable in any civilized society, it's just a matter of who pays what and how the money collected is spent. Personally I'd argue America has more important things to spend money on besides subsidies for multinationals and cutting taxes for billionaires.
BLM disagrees.
They say DEFUND RACISM.
Biden wants to increase funding for a systemic racist white society?
23 Sep 2020, 3:34 pm
One of my ex boyfriends was also anti tax but he just didn't want to work and he wanted money all for himself and he didn't want to pay to live. He thought everything should have been free and a handout. Thought it was the R word to pay to eat, pay to have shelter, pay to have electricity, etc. He hated taxes so I told him if we didn't have taxes, we would have no public schools, no public libraries and the police and firemen and no disability payments, no road maintience.
He even thought if you wanted a new gaming system, you should apply for one and I asked him what would the requirements be to own one and he said "nothing, he will just give it to you" ands I am like "But how will the employees who make the games and systems get paid?"
He was so clueless about how the economy worked. 
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23 Sep 2020, 3:39 pm
Paying taxes isn't fascism, it's part of living with a functional government. Trump has demonstrated that he wishes to use tax cuts to transfer wealth from working Americans to the wealthy and multinational corporations (just like every other thieving GOP politician).
Taxes are unavoidable in any civilized society, it's just a matter of who pays what and how the money collected is spent. Personally I'd argue America has more important things to spend money on besides subsidies for multinationals and cutting taxes for billionaires.
BLM disagrees.
They say DEFUND RACISM.
Biden wants to increase funding for a systemic racist white society?
Does he? Is he going to raise taxes specifically to increase spending on ICE? He's an establishment schmuck, he's going to act like they're known for but at least he won't praise violent racists like other people in the current race have.
23 Sep 2020, 3:43 pm
Orwell is a well-known socialist and well-respected by most on the left.
Just to be clear, Orwell was a supporter of democratic socialism. There is a difference.
Are you suggesting most the American left isn't dominated by social democrats and democratic socialists?
Orwell would be 'to the left' of most prominent contemporary American leftists.
Maybe. But it's a sizable leap between socialsm and democratic socialism.
As far as the "American left" is concerned, they don't have a political party that supports their views when it comes down to actual legislation. The Democratic Party is every bit as neoliberal, even neoconservative, as the Republican Party.
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23 Sep 2020, 3:48 pm
Orwell is a well-known socialist and well-respected by most on the left.
Just to be clear, Orwell was a supporter of democratic socialism. There is a difference.
Are you suggesting most the American left isn't dominated by social democrats and democratic socialists?
Orwell would be 'to the left' of most prominent contemporary American leftists.
Maybe. But it's a sizable leap between socialsm and democratic socialism.
As far as the "American left" is concerned, they don't have a political party that supports their views when it comes down to actual legislation. The Democratic Party is every bit as neoliberal, even neoconservative, as the Republican Party.
Democratic socialism is part of the group of the ideologies that are generally referred to as socialism. It's not a sizable leap any more than death metal is a 'sizable leap' from metal or orange flavour is a sizable leap from citrus flavour.
Otherwise, I agree regarding the Democratic Party. The lesser of two evils is still evil, but sometimes there's a big enough difference between the two to make one still less horrible than the other. The Democratic Party would be much easier to support if it wasn't dominated by Republican Lites, but at this point I can think of plenty of Republicans who would be preferable to Trump too.
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23 Sep 2020, 4:02 pm
Orwell is a well-known socialist and well-respected by most on the left.
Oh, the right tries to claim Orwell, too, conveniently forgetting that he was a socialist.
