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16 Oct 2020, 7:57 pm

would be better if people could learn the easy way and not the hard way.



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16 Oct 2020, 8:29 pm

The question is whether they have "learned"



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16 Oct 2020, 8:42 pm

cyberdad wrote:
The question is whether they have "learned"

dissocial types have proven that their learning is confined to their own situation, they can't seem to globalize their learnt lessons.



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16 Oct 2020, 8:49 pm

auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The question is whether they have "learned"

dissocial types have proven that their learning is confined to their own situation, they can't seem to globalize their learnt lessons.


I think if history is anything to go by it takes a lot of people dying before anyone notices



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16 Oct 2020, 8:52 pm

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The question is whether they have "learned"

dissocial types have proven that their learning is confined to their own situation, they can't seem to globalize their learnt lessons.


I think if history is anything to go by it takes a lot of people dying before anyone notices

there is a cold-blooded calculus going on, in terms of how many deaths it takes before action becomes unavoidable.



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16 Oct 2020, 8:55 pm

Yes not sure where it will end? but certainly enough humans left on the planet to "survive the jive" about COVID



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16 Oct 2020, 9:30 pm

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Yes not sure where it will end? but certainly enough humans left on the planet to "survive the jive" about COVID

the conscienceless monsters pushing for "herd immunity" seem to be headed for a win by default.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:33 pm

auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Yes not sure where it will end? but certainly enough humans left on the planet to "survive the jive" about COVID

the conscienceless monsters pushing for "herd immunity" seem to be headed for a win by default.


At some point we need to decide if a viable vaccine is not forthcoming how long we allow our economic system to crumble and collapse? the worst is yet to come.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:37 pm

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Yes not sure where it will end? but certainly enough humans left on the planet to "survive the jive" about COVID

the conscienceless monsters pushing for "herd immunity" seem to be headed for a win by default.


At some point we need to decide if a viable vaccine is not forthcoming how long we allow our economic system to crumble and collapse? the worst is yet to come.

herd immunity should be the last thing we want, not the first. not that it doesn't have a positive about it but the cost is so infernally high. we need to stay the course and do what has been proven to lessen fatalities - triage first thing [separate vulnerable and less vulnerable groups], encourage social distancing and remote-work wherever possible, mandatory mask wearing around other people, mandatory hygiene, contact tracing. in addition, since the bulk of the victims have been obese, we neeeeeeed to double-down on healthier living as a primary goal and not a secondary goal. all this should be in the foreground while vaccine development bubbles in the background, stubborn until the goal has been reached. and as much as i hate needles and taking risks, i'll have to bite the bullet [after a sufficient other number have done likewise] and take the GD shot in the arm. ouch.



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16 Oct 2020, 9:55 pm

I agree that simple common sense things like social distancing could have been practiced. Also honest and viable tracking of infected patients arriving from China and Europe would have perhaps saved thousands of lives.

Initial incompetence has cost us dearly.



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16 Oct 2020, 10:03 pm

cyberdad wrote:
I agree that simple common sense things like social distancing could have been practiced. Also honest and viable tracking of infected patients arriving from China and Europe would have perhaps saved thousands of lives.

Initial incompetence has cost us dearly.

at best, the dissocial authoritarians are incompetent, at worst they have a deadly intent [passive culling of the herd] at what passes for their hearts.



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16 Oct 2020, 10:09 pm

auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I agree that simple common sense things like social distancing could have been practiced. Also honest and viable tracking of infected patients arriving from China and Europe would have perhaps saved thousands of lives.

Initial incompetence has cost us dearly.

at best, the dissocial authoritarians are incompetent, at worst they have a deadly intent [passive culling of the herd] at what passes for their hearts.


As the vaccine is delayed there will be continual opening up followed by lockdown until most of the population is exposed to the virus.



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16 Oct 2020, 10:16 pm

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I agree that simple common sense things like social distancing could have been practiced. Also honest and viable tracking of infected patients arriving from China and Europe would have perhaps saved thousands of lives.

Initial incompetence has cost us dearly.

at best, the dissocial authoritarians are incompetent, at worst they have a deadly intent [passive culling of the herd] at what passes for their hearts.


As the vaccine is delayed there will be continual opening up followed by lockdown until most of the population is exposed to the virus.

the scary thing is that this virus seems to not cause immunity in those who have it.



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17 Oct 2020, 2:50 am

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Yes not sure where it will end? but certainly enough humans left on the planet to "survive the jive" about COVID

the conscienceless monsters pushing for "herd immunity" seem to be headed for a win by default.


At some point we need to decide if a viable vaccine is not forthcoming how long we allow our economic system to crumble and collapse? the worst is yet to come.


Dan's the man.
He'll know what to do. 8)