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08 Nov 2020, 8:46 am

Now that the Trumpster is in the dumpster America can start to recover.


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08 Nov 2020, 9:34 am

I usually consider myself a - mostly - down-to-earth individual, but I too feel like rejoicing right now.

Back in the autumn of 2016, I was planning to go to my first vacation to New York - and my first trip to the US. I had bought two history books about NYC and was beginning to plan how to visit all those historical and cultural landmarks in the city (and of course Lombardi's - Jon Stewarts favourite pizza joint).

And I honestly believed that the commonly held principles of Western civilization were so entrenched, that the lessons from demagogues of the past had been so thoroughly learned, and that the ideals of the US itself were so embraced by its citizens... that a man like Donald John Trump would never become president of the United States of America.

All my naive illusions were shattered on 8 November 2016, when Trump was elected president. I packed those books away, cancelled all those vacation plans, and basically rage quit WrongPlanet for an entire year.

... now, where *did* I put those books?


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08 Nov 2020, 9:47 am

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I usually consider myself a - mostly - down-to-earth individual, but I too feel like rejoicing right now.

Back in the autumn of 2016, I was planning to go to my first vacation to New York - and my first trip to the US. I had bought two history books about NYC and was beginning to plan how to visit all those historical and cultural landmarks in the city (and of course Lombardi's - Jon Stewarts favourite pizza joint).

And I honestly believed that the commonly held principles of Western civilization were so entrenched, that the lessons from demagogues of the past had been so thoroughly learned, and that the ideals of the US itself were so embraced by its citizens... that a man like Donald John Trump would never become president of the United States of America.

All my naive illusions were shattered on 8 November 2016, when Trump was elected president. I packed those books away, cancelled all those vacation plans, and basically rage quit WrongPlanet for an entire year.

... now, where *did* I put those books?


I also canceled my travel plans: to go to Mexico. It felt too dangerous to be out of the country at that time. I don't think my stomach has relaxed since 11/8/16. I feel so much lighter.


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08 Nov 2020, 9:48 am

My feelings about Trump were pretty neutral.
There was some good and there was some bad.
I didn't care about his personality much, just the bottom line of how his administration ran the country.
Which all in all, considering he had no political experience, wasn't all that bad.


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08 Nov 2020, 9:51 am

I feel weirdly happy about it considering it's in America & I don't even agree with Biden much.

It's mostly the hope of a domino effect tbh.

America is more powerful than here so will be able to play hardball and get our politicians to do things like soft border in Ireland etc.



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08 Nov 2020, 10:13 am

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Trump did exceptional.

Sure, he lost a close race ... however ...

-Republicans look to capture 8-15 Democrat House seats

-Republicans likely to keep the Senate

-More people voted Republican than in any prior president election

-Socialist is a dirty word again.
a. Some Democrats say being labeled as a Socialist lost them or nearly lost their seats.

b. AOC says she may quit because "progressives" are being blamed
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-say ... es-2020-11

-Democrats continue to lose support from black men
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bla ... w-n1246447

-Trump gained Hispanic vote in Texas, Florida



You are to be applauded for looking on the bright side, but the orange one still lost by over four million votes.


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08 Nov 2020, 10:16 am

From The New Yorker: Donald Trump, Con Artist? (March 2016 :!: )


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08 Nov 2020, 11:55 am





"45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied. 46 This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel. 47 And all this assembly shall know that the Lord saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the Lord’s, and he will give you into our hands."

1 Samuel 17:45-47 King James Version"

It's Worth Noting That Not Everyone
Is Celebrating the Defeat of Donald
Trump; True, too Conservative
to Get Out in the Street
And Protest; And
As Indicated in
Another
Post Passive
Aggressive Enough
As Priests Who Offer Prayers
And Hope For Those New Coming
in Office by Going Over All the Days
the Church Prayed For Donald J 'Devil'
to Be Elected So Far Away from Matthew
Chapter 5, Verses 3 through 11; Yes as
Far as Any Christian Book Devil Will Sink to
the lowest
Pits
of
Trumpster
in Gehenna
but so ironically
Again Suggesting
Through Fortuitous
Christian Catholic Verse
That those Who Voted For
the Trumpster In Gehenna
Are the Real Fools; But You
See According to the Verse
Above there are some
more Solitary
Listening
to Folks
on Isolated
Darkest Web
YouTube Religious
Channels Proclaiming
Donald J As Their Religious
Assigned Prophet Where Normally
Elderly Nice Folks Who are too Naive
in Humanly Emotional Intelligence to
See When they Are Being Conned By the
Same Devil
in a
Dark
Red Tied
Suit Now Supreme;

Not Unlike Steve Bannon,
They Are Just Waiting in
The Red to Orange
Wings of
the Old
Testament
God Same Dam Devil...

With Verses As Bloody
And Evil As 'That God' Still Tales
And Inspires Folks to be now too...


Religion

is

Definitely

Scary We

Need a Book

More About Love

Thank God For Rock
And Roll, Soul Music
And Jazz That Evolves A Human Soul
Away from Ignorance, Fear, And Hate
Lest We All We aRe the Clothes of an Old

Testament God OF DEATH

OF DEATH

OF DEATH

WORSHIPPED

MOST AS LIFE

IN FEAR AND HATE
AS IGNORANCE KILLS FOR REAL

YAY! SCIENCE SAVES LIVES;

And Yes

Some

Poetry

Still inspires
More than
Fear and
Hate Dwelling
in the Ignorance of 'Cold'... hell...

i'm Pretty Sure That the Verse Numbers
45 for the David Savior And the One
Wished Without A Head for 46
was no Coincidence

or at

Least

Synchronicity

For the Words This
Trump Supporter for
His Real Messiah claimed today...

But Again, Before Trump, He was one
of the Most Rational, Nicest Predictable,

Persons i ever met...

Yes A Mathematician
But that's Not the
Part of a Brain
Now that

Breathes
A Spirit
A Heart of
Soul More
than Just
Letters
and
Words
With No Real Breath...

The Same Thing Happened
with My Mother Drown
in all the Conspiracy
Theories that

Color

Those

Lives

No Longer

Purpose Driven for Day to Day Survival...

As they say 'the Devils Workshop' Ripe for
Trump Fox News for all that EnTails of
Devil's Breath of Ignorance of Fear And Hate Still...

There is Rationality Of Mind; And Rationality of Spirit, Heart, Soul

The Two And More Intelligences Are Surely Not Necessarily Good

Bed FellowS in Same Human Nows...

It is Pretty Clear We aRe Not Necessarily So Far Away from More

Home Grown 'Suicide

Bombers Here'...

Truly in this
Way A Uniter
More than a Divider
Like Biden is A Real 'God Send' of Love With a Lesser God of Death...

Anyway; Seeing this, this Morning From 'the Really Nice Guy'

Ponders my Wonder

What the

'Quiet ones'

Are Doing Today...

We Honestly Had People
Yelling in the Streets in
Anger Not Far From Our
Neighborhood in Trump
Town USA; Ain't Worried
About them Folks; They Got Out it
Out of their System; they will have a Nicer Day Now...

The Shock, The Denying Reality, The Anger, Today

A Tear in A Beer

And Life

Will Go on
For those Who
Do the Whole Grief
Routine and Don't Get Stuck in Anger

Festering to Life Long Hate

And Potential
Premature
Death
And
Other
Destructions...

i NeeD A Tear in A Beer
THeME Song For This; That is A bit
Out of my Genres; Gonna Have to Do Some Research...

It's Like What i told
Myself After
the Last
Election'
Get Over
It QUICK;
ENJOY YOUR
FREEDOM WHILE IT LASTS FOR REAL NOW...

i utilized A Full Range of Emotions of
Course in Poetic Muse for 4 YearS in Dark hehe

Helping a Bit More with all the Light Muse Generating
5 or so More MiLLioN Words Here and THere...

iN Freest
Verse Yes
FLoWinG
EPiC
Long
Form
Poetry
Just

For

Fun

With
MUCHO
Public
Dance;
8,000 Or
So Miles

In 4
Years
Adding
to the
total

Miles
More

Just
For
Freedom
And Fun; Don't
Need Many TearS iN
A Beer Songs.. hehe..

Not
FoR Me

At Least...

A Greatest
Avenue to Regulate
Emotions and Integrate
Senses NoW is Free FLoWinG
Art Wings of Soul iN Flight
SPiRiT Wind HeART oF SoUL
Oh Lord this is getting Long
i'll Save the Rest oF iT FoR A 'Depth of The Story'... Soul... Deeper...;)

Hehe; There is Always More Than one Path of Dance And Song to take; hAha...

Thanks
to The
Freedom

For Those
Who Still Do
Take Full Advantage

Making the Lives Sacrificed
For This Freedom Worth All the
Blood And Bones We Dance And Sing Upon

The Avenues
Bringing

This

Freedom
For Joy And TearS Even
Freer For all TO JUST DO FREE...

MOST ALL RELIGION
As practiced today at least

SU8KS

IN THIS

COUNTRY And Others too...

FREEDOM Dances And Sings FREE
IN WAYS OF LOVE THAT ALLOW SU8KS

TO DancE SiNG Too

Just More
FlesH NoW
And Blood
To Pay For Free...

i SWear though; those
Verses 45-46 Up THere from
That Old Bible Is Now For Real
Still NeW Age Stone Cold Evil Dead...

Yet, Still The Bones; The Cold, Older, Deader
Soul Old Bible Bones Exist For Freedom's Breath...

For THere
is More
than
one
Way
to Do 'Super Freak'...;)


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08 Nov 2020, 5:31 pm

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Now that the Trumpster is in the dumpster America can start to recover.



That won't start until Jan 21st.


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08 Nov 2020, 5:36 pm

KT67 wrote:
I feel weirdly happy about it considering it's in America & I don't even agree with Biden much.

It's mostly the hope of a domino effect tbh.

America is more powerful than here so will be able to play hardball and get our politicians to do things like soft border in Ireland etc.



I never cared about Biden that much, I only voted him to get the orange guy out of office. I am pretty sure lot of people did.

My online friend asked me about dementia so I told him "if that happens, we have the vice president that will take over."


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08 Nov 2020, 8:01 pm

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You are to be applauded for looking on the bright side, but the orange one still lost by over four million votes.

The Democrats are splintering.

The moderates want their party back from the Socialists.


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08 Nov 2020, 8:06 pm

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Donald Morton wrote:
You are to be applauded for looking on the bright side, but the orange one still lost by over four million votes.

The Democrats are splintering.

The moderates want their party back from the Socialists.


Wait? how are they splintering when they haven't even consolidated power yet? wishful thinking



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08 Nov 2020, 8:10 pm

cyberdad wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Donald Morton wrote:
You are to be applauded for looking on the bright side, but the orange one still lost by over four million votes.

The Democrats are splintering.

The moderates want their party back from the Socialists.


Wait? how are they splintering when they haven't even consolidated power yet? wishful thinking


AOC said she might quit politics, as some centrist Democrats blame progressives for House losses
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-say ... es-2020-11

Memo to centrist Democrats: Stop blaming progressives for House losses
https://www.washingtonpost.com%2Fopinio ... swMW3r_cTD

Biden faces power struggle between Democratic progressives and moderates
https://www.ft.com/content/e922ddea-666 ... dbfd0fc009


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08 Nov 2020, 8:16 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Donald Morton wrote:
You are to be applauded for looking on the bright side, but the orange one still lost by over four million votes.

The Democrats are splintering.

The moderates want their party back from the Socialists.


Wait? how are they splintering when they haven't even consolidated power yet? wishful thinking


AOC said she might quit politics, as some centrist Democrats blame progressives for House losses
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-say ... es-2020-11


AOC wrote:
"You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn't even know if I was going to run for re-election this year."


Sounds like she means right after she was first elected, not recently. Candidates aligned with her views keep outperforming centrists, so she's probably not still that discouraged.


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08 Nov 2020, 8:20 pm

fe wrote:
AOC wrote:
"You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn't even know if I was going to run for re-election this year."

Sounds like she means right after she was first elected, not recently. Candidates aligned with her views keep outperforming centrists, so she's probably not still that discouraged.

She is being blamed for espousing Socialist views that supposedly helped Trump win back House seats.


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09 Nov 2020, 2:19 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
fe wrote:
AOC wrote:
"You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn't even know if I was going to run for re-election this year."

Sounds like she means right after she was first elected, not recently. Candidates aligned with her views keep outperforming centrists, so she's probably not still that discouraged.

She is being blamed for espousing Socialist views that supposedly helped Trump win back House seats.


If she's smart she'll work out a deal rather than cause a schism.


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