‘Music’ film with nonverbal autistic lead, directed by Sia

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28 Apr 2021, 8:08 am

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I don't care. Sia is still okay. Well her R&B phase at least. I don't care, that was a story she wanted to write, and that's how Hollywood casting works. Y'all don't even know Sia and want to cancel her over this misunderstanding crap. I'm autistic, and support Sia.



Such a terrible term “canceling” or “cancel culture” turns everyone into conformist robots with the same views.

It’s ironic coming from autistic advocates who want to celebrate differences but some are so keen on making everyone the same.



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28 Apr 2021, 5:33 pm

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She's been blasted by the Australian media for casting an NT as a non-verbal autistic girl.

Funny nobody had a problem with casting NTs for "Temple", "The Accountant" and an NT to play the "Good Doctor" where all three characters were depicted by NTs playing characters who were non-verbal autistics as children?

So what's changed this time?

My best guess would be that perhaps what has changed is increased success by other civil rights movements (for ethnic minorities, LGBTQ+, etc.) in getting Hollywood to take representation issues seriously, thereby paving the way for the disability rights movement (of which the autistic rights movement is a part) to make similar demands and have at least some hope of being taken seriously.


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28 Apr 2021, 7:58 pm

I really wish the controversy wasn't so exclusively focused on the actress being NT. It's so much worse than that:



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28 Apr 2021, 10:19 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
She's been blasted by the Australian media for casting an NT as a non-verbal autistic girl.

Funny nobody had a problem with casting NTs for "Temple", "The Accountant" and an NT to play the "Good Doctor" where all three characters were depicted by NTs playing characters who were non-verbal autistics as children?

So what's changed this time?

My best guess would be that perhaps what has changed is increased success by other civil rights movements (for ethnic minorities, LGBTQ+, etc.) in getting Hollywood to take representation issues seriously, thereby paving the way for the disability rights movement (of which the autistic rights movement is a part) to make similar demands and have at least some hope of being taken seriously.


That's a really good point.

It's actually quite fascinating to be alive right now, witnessing how marginalised and disadvantaged groups are gaining a powerful voice through social media - which is great!

Also the flip side of it, the increasing use of that power to silence alternative views, i.e. cancel culture in action - which is not so great, but maybe an evolutionary step we need to go through?

I'm personally finding it an interesting process trying to work out whether or not I'm on the right side of history, so to speak. Perhaps because of internalisation of prior societal norms, I tend to be less passionate about minority issues as some younger folk, and have on occasion argued on behalf of famous personalities who were under attack, such as J K Rowling last year and now Sia. Not because I agree with their views necessarily, more because I want to stand up for the right to debate alternative viewpoints without being subject to personal attack.

I hope that at some point we will see a further evolution in the way we use social media that will (somehow!) maintain a powerful platform for the views of minorities and disadvantaged groups without unduly stifling alternative opinions - where those opinions arose from good intentions rather than bigotry (which I believed was the case for Rowling and Sia, although I accept mine may be a minority opinion here).



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29 Apr 2021, 12:26 am

Udinaas wrote:
I really wish the controversy wasn't so exclusively focused on the actress being NT. It's so much worse than that:
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Fascinating video. I didn't realise Sia black faced the actress (just to make things worse).

Maddie (the actress) disclosed to Sia that she felt the dance scenes mocked autistic people. When you watch the dance scenes it makes sense. It does remind me of Trump mocking the disabled reporter.