13 Dec 2020, 1:08 pm
Pepe wrote:
MrsPeel wrote:
I've never felt comfortable with "they" or any of the non-binary pronouns.
In one way it is a power-play.
It depends on the person.
Avoid obnoxious people.
Problem solved.
There are consequences for bad attitudes.
People have the right to use whatever pronouns they want.
They don't have the right to assume everyone knows them and knows their pronouns.
Even cis people.
It's like assuming everyone knows your name.
Celebs are arrogant though, they would be outraged if someone didn't know who they are!
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13 Dec 2020, 4:43 pm
Fnord wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
... unless they wear a pronoun on their shirt, no one has a way of knowing.
Exactly.And why is it important to "represent" for their particular identity, anyway? For example: As a white, gynotropic, middle-class cis-male with an MSEE, a pretty Asian wife, a female black cat named 'Naia', an Amateur Radio license, and membership in the Freemasons, I believe that labels are both pointless and tedious.
See my point?Seriously though, how often do we have real-life conversations in which we are required to use any and every means possible to identify ourselves before saying something like, "I agree with your opinion"?
If someone kept referring to you as a she or her and kept trying to misgender you knowing full well know you are actually a man, how would that make you feel?
This is how it feels for a transgender person but on a daily basis. But many of us don't feel the need to identify as our gender because we don't have a gender dysphoria. Our gender has never been challenged. No one questions if you are ever a male.
13 Dec 2020, 4:46 pm
KT67 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
MrsPeel wrote:
I've never felt comfortable with "they" or any of the non-binary pronouns.
In one way it is a power-play.
It depends on the person.
Avoid obnoxious people.
Problem solved.
There are consequences for bad attitudes.
Celebs are arrogant though, they would be outraged if someone didn't know who they are!
I have known at least one autistic blogger like that and she expects everyone to read everything she had ever written in her blog and know everything about her she has written. I just learned to avoid her and be quiet around her whenever I went to the groups she is in. She was very easy to offend and upset and had Bipolar mood changes. (Not saying she is Bipolar but she can go from being fine to then screaming at you) Yes these people I avoid since they are unpredictable and they can set off any time without warning.
13 Dec 2020, 5:58 pm
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13 Dec 2020, 6:42 pm
StayFrosty wrote:
I will never bow to no pronoun! I will be rebellious to the end!
Do the same for cis people & figure out how long conversations last
"The individual speaking would like to mention to the individual listening that a man and a woman came in here yesterday, the man said.... the woman said... What does the individual listening think?"
Everyone has pronouns. Bloody awkward not using them.
Definite articles are most useless part of speech followed by indefinite articles followed by adverbs followed by adjectives. Pronouns, verbs and nouns are pretty always useful.
13 Dec 2020, 8:24 pm
13 Dec 2020, 8:50 pm
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Like they were trying to start a fight. The thing is, because I am a cis-male, being referred to with a feminine pronoun is easily recognized as a low form of harassment by employers, lawyers, and judges, and will likely result in a swift dismissal of a co-worker.
You're getting it.
This is why trans people call it violence and hate speech when you misgender them and refuse to use their pronouns.
There is a difference between a mistake and doing it intentionally. Most of them will correct you nicely. Hopefully the ones who throw a fit and think you did it intentionally are the minority.
13 Dec 2020, 9:07 pm
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13 Dec 2020, 10:36 pm
auntblabby wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
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Like they were trying to start a fight. The thing is, because I am a cis-male, being referred to with a feminine pronoun is easily recognized as a low form of harassment by employers, lawyers, and judges, and will likely result in a swift dismissal of a co-worker.
This is why trans people call it violence and hate speech when you misgender them and refuse to use their pronouns. how would you feel if people kept calling you "missus"?
Just ignore her.
