They banned Dr. Seuss!
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
what, I may be a liberal/leftist whatever...but Dr Seuss? come on, what the hell.
Bwahahaha.
Stung by your own political leaning.
Priceless.
Says the Trump worshipper who has been embarrassed by Trump so many dozens of times that he denies being an obvious Trump supporter.
One of the traits I have noticed, of hard-line leftists, is their propensity to misrepresent a situation/person.
I suspect this is part of the left-wing tactical manual.
I am looking into it.
Say hi to Saul, for me.
I am not hard left.
In this you are.
naturalplastic wrote:
and
I accurately represented you.
I accurately represented you.
No, you didn't.
The most forgiving interpretation is that you were using hyperbole.
naturalplastic wrote:
and
Folks often disagree with others of their own creed (ask Mitch McConnell and Trump, and AOC and Biden). That's not rare enough to be considered "priceless".
Folks often disagree with others of their own creed (ask Mitch McConnell and Trump, and AOC and Biden). That's not rare enough to be considered "priceless".
I found it 'Priceless'.
YMMV.
cyberdad wrote:
Snopes say the books isn't banned.
We are talking about one small county in the US. I strolled through my local bookstore here in Melbourne and there is a whole rack of Dr Suess.
The anti-cancel culture people once again looking for things to whine about.
We are talking about one small county in the US. I strolled through my local bookstore here in Melbourne and there is a whole rack of Dr Suess.
The anti-cancel culture people once again looking for things to whine about.
Exactly.
Even my own dad (hardly a woke type - he's actually pretty sexist & anti-lgbt) is 'onto' the more extreme anti-wokers now.
He agrees with me that they don't really think, they just get told what to think by the Sun etc.
Or in America, Fox News.
I know a lot of leftists & most, sure, would rather get talking points from Philosophy Tube than from doing first hand research. But after that, they/we think, come to our own conclusions, say where we disagree etc. I don't see that from someone who's just finished reading the Sun. It's more like 'magic bullet' theory:
http://media-studies.mrshollyenglish.co ... nce-theory
Fact is a lot of being a librarian is weeding and I can see why in this day and age 'political correctness' comes into some of those decisions. And being a children's librarian/school board making decisions about books/school library makes it an especially prescriptive process. Because they are children.
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KT67 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Snopes say the books isn't banned.
We are talking about one small county in the US. I strolled through my local bookstore here in Melbourne and there is a whole rack of Dr Suess.
The anti-cancel culture people once again looking for things to whine about.
We are talking about one small county in the US. I strolled through my local bookstore here in Melbourne and there is a whole rack of Dr Suess.
The anti-cancel culture people once again looking for things to whine about.
Exactly.
Even my own dad (hardly a woke type - he's actually pretty sexist & anti-lgbt) is 'onto' the more extreme anti-wokers now.
He agrees with me that they don't really think, they just get told what to think by the Sun etc.
Or in America, Fox News.
I know a lot of leftists & most, sure, would rather get talking points from Philosophy Tube than from doing first hand research. But after that, they/we think, come to our own conclusions, say where we disagree etc. I don't see that from someone who's just finished reading the Sun. It's more like 'magic bullet' theory:
http://media-studies.mrshollyenglish.co ... nce-theory
Fact is a lot of being a librarian is weeding and I can see why in this day and age 'political correctness' comes into some of those decisions. And being a children's librarian/school board making decisions about books/school library makes it an especially prescriptive process. Because they are children.
Books are fiction and kids (for the most part work this out).
Kids learn to be prejudiced from their parents.
cyberdad wrote:
KT67 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Snopes say the books isn't banned.
We are talking about one small county in the US. I strolled through my local bookstore here in Melbourne and there is a whole rack of Dr Suess.
The anti-cancel culture people once again looking for things to whine about.
We are talking about one small county in the US. I strolled through my local bookstore here in Melbourne and there is a whole rack of Dr Suess.
The anti-cancel culture people once again looking for things to whine about.
Exactly.
Even my own dad (hardly a woke type - he's actually pretty sexist & anti-lgbt) is 'onto' the more extreme anti-wokers now.
He agrees with me that they don't really think, they just get told what to think by the Sun etc.
Or in America, Fox News.
I know a lot of leftists & most, sure, would rather get talking points from Philosophy Tube than from doing first hand research. But after that, they/we think, come to our own conclusions, say where we disagree etc. I don't see that from someone who's just finished reading the Sun. It's more like 'magic bullet' theory:
http://media-studies.mrshollyenglish.co ... nce-theory
Fact is a lot of being a librarian is weeding and I can see why in this day and age 'political correctness' comes into some of those decisions. And being a children's librarian/school board making decisions about books/school library makes it an especially prescriptive process. Because they are children.
Books are fiction and kids (for the most part work this out).
Kids learn to be prejudiced from their parents.
Not necessarily.
Think of "The Hitler Youth".
Sylkat wrote:
Can someone post any direct quote from Dr. Seuss’ works that is racist?
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
It explains in this article.And why he wasn’t.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/201 ... f-dr-seuss
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Misslizard wrote:
:o
It explains in this article.And why he wasn’t.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/201 ... f-dr-seuss
Sylkat wrote:
Can someone post any direct quote from Dr. Seuss’ works that is racist?
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
It explains in this article.And why he wasn’t.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/201 ... f-dr-seuss
Yes he sounds like a progressive person for his time.
Sylkat wrote:
Can someone post any direct quote from Dr. Seuss’ works that is racist?
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
1. "The researchers surveyed 50 Dr. Seuss books and concluded that, “of the 2,240 (identified) human characters, there are forty-five characters of color representing 2% of the total number of human characters"
2. Of the 45 characters, 43 exhibited behaviors and appearances that align with harmful and stereotypical Orientalist tropes.
3. The remaining two human characters “are identified in the text as ‘African’ and both align with the theme of anti-Blackness.”
4. Each of the non-white characters is male and that they are all “presented in subservient, exotified, or dehumanized roles,”
https://www.learningforjustice.org/maga ... t-dr-seuss
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TheRobotLives wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Can someone post any direct quote from Dr. Seuss’ works that is racist?
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
1. "The researchers surveyed 50 Dr. Seuss books and concluded that, “of the 2,240 (identified) human characters, there are forty-five characters of color representing 2% of the total number of human characters"
2. Of the 45 characters, 43 exhibited behaviors and appearances that align with harmful and stereotypical Orientalist tropes.
3. The remaining two human characters “are identified in the text as ‘African’ and both align with the theme of anti-Blackness.”
4. Each of the non-white characters is male and that they are all “presented in subservient, exotified, or dehumanized roles,”
https://www.learningforjustice.org/maga ... t-dr-seuss
I was bought up on Dr Suess as a kid and I'm a lefty who is progressive in relation to race issues so I guess I must have missed the undertones?
Misslizard wrote:
:o
It explains in this article.And why he wasn’t.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/201 ... f-dr-seuss
Sylkat wrote:
Can someone post any direct quote from Dr. Seuss’ works that is racist?
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
It explains in this article.And why he wasn’t.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/201 ... f-dr-seuss
Quote:
There’s a healthy dollop of wisdom percolating through the slapstick silliness and anarchic absurdity of Dr Seuss. More perhaps than any other children’s author, the musings of US writer and illustrator Theodor Seuss Geisel – who adopted the pen name Dr Seuss while at college – amount to a kind of philosophy. It’s one that has entered popular consciousness, contributing to pop song lyrics and even being cited by a Supreme Court judge.
He sounds like my kinda guy, incorporating humour with political commentary.
No wonder some are trying to cancel him.
Misslizard wrote:
Yet there’s also a political edge to Dr Seuss that is often overlooked.
Tell me about it.
TheRobotLives wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Can someone post any direct quote from Dr. Seuss’ works that is racist?
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
I truly do not understand what specifically is being referred to.
Thank you.
1. "The researchers surveyed 50 Dr. Seuss books and concluded that, “of the 2,240 (identified) human characters, there are forty-five characters of color representing 2% of the total number of human characters"
2. Of the 45 characters, 43 exhibited behaviors and appearances that align with harmful and stereotypical Orientalist tropes.
3. The remaining two human characters “are identified in the text as ‘African’ and both align with the theme of anti-Blackness.”
4. Each of the non-white characters is male and that they are all “presented in subservient, exotified, or dehumanized roles,”
https://www.learningforjustice.org/maga ... t-dr-seuss
Well, it could simply be open to interpretation.
I would like to see the 'offending' bits and make an independent judgement call myself.
Everyone knows you can't automatically believe everything/k you see and hear, right?
Critical thinkers unite!
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Not necessarily.
Think of "The Hitler Youth".
Think of "The Hitler Youth".
ummmm I'm talking about today not yesteryear Pepe
OK, then think about academics indoctrinating the skool kids.
They learnt from the history books, imo.
Honestly I never listened to a thing my teacher ever said
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