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01 Mar 2021, 11:11 pm

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Twitter ‘manipulated algorithm’ to silence Donald Trump
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Tech giant Twitter very clearly “manipulated the algorithm” to push down any tweets related to Donald Trump’s CPAC speech, according to Sky News contributor Daisy Cousens.

Mr Trump spoke to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Sunday (local time) in a much-anticipated appearance marking his first address since President Joe Biden’s inauguration.

In the speech he hinted at a potential run for president in 2024, while also slamming President Biden and “weak” Republicans.

Ms Cousens said the president was extremely popular after the CPAC address which was evident by the “hundreds of thousands of people tweeting about it”.

Despite the large amount of traffic relating to the president, many of the Trump-related terms which were trending were quickly replaced with trends relating to the golden globes.

“The trends only had a couple of thousand tweets attached to them in a lot of cases,” Ms Cousens said.

“The actor Jeff Daniels was trending well above anything associated with Trump and he had 1700 tweets attached to him.

“So it was very very clear that Twitter was manipulating the algorithm and manipulating the tweets – which they do – to push down anything related to Trump and to push up anything kind of commercial.”


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_623 ... ld%20Trump



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02 Mar 2021, 11:23 am

How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


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02 Mar 2021, 12:46 pm

While I understand the situation, I do not see a problem.

If the algorithm filters out Trump's hate speech, it will filter out similar hate speech from others.

Besides, Trump has not been "Silenced", he has only been denied use of something he has abused in the past.

Again, I do not see a problem with filtering out hate speech.


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02 Mar 2021, 4:30 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


The problem is who determines what is hate speech and what is not. Political speech shouldn't be moderated or considered hate speech but today that is the norm. Democratic Party political propaganda seeks to divide people by skin color, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation for the sole purpose of favoring some groups while blaming and hating others. Voices opposing them are considered hate speech and are censored on some social media platforms.

Meanwhile true hate speech continues on Twitter and is ignored.

Individual rights like free speech shouldn't depend on gender, skin color, religion, sexual orientation and/or political affiliations.



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02 Mar 2021, 4:43 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


The problem is who determines what is hate speech and what is not. Political speech shouldn't be moderated or considered hate speech but today that is the norm. Democratic Party political propaganda seeks to divide people by skin color, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation for the sole purpose of favoring some groups while blaming and hating others. Voices opposing them are considering hate speech and are censored on some social media platforms.

Meanwhile true hate speech continues on Twitter and is ignored.

Individual rights like free speech shouldn't depend on gender, skin color, religion, sexual orientation and/or political affiliations.


Agreed. 8)



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02 Mar 2021, 4:50 pm

Pepe wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


The problem is who determines what is hate speech and what is not. Political speech shouldn't be moderated or considered hate speech but today that is the norm. Democratic Party political propaganda seeks to divide people by skin color, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation for the sole purpose of favoring some groups while blaming and hating others. Voices opposing them are considering hate speech and are censored on some social media platforms.

Meanwhile true hate speech continues on Twitter and is ignored.

Individual rights like free speech shouldn't depend on gender, skin color, religion, sexual orientation and/or political affiliations.


Agreed. 8)


Disagree. :)


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02 Mar 2021, 5:03 pm

And its not only Donald Trump either. They are censoring a lot of things they define as "hate speech".



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02 Mar 2021, 5:10 pm

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And its not only Donald Trump either. They are censoring a lot of things they define as "hate speech".


Are those things, by chance, hateful things? :? Perhaps that's why they're being categorized as hate speech. Just a hunch. ;)


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02 Mar 2021, 5:12 pm

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And its not only Donald Trump either. They are censoring a lot of things they define as "hate speech".


It is well known that twitter is left-leaning.
It is supposed to be a 'Platform', so it shouldn't censor to favour their political leaning, but they obviously do. 8O



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02 Mar 2021, 5:25 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


The problem is who determines what is hate speech and what is not. Political speech shouldn't be moderated or considered hate speech but today that is the norm. Democratic Party political propaganda seeks to divide people by skin color, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation for the sole purpose of favoring some groups while blaming and hating others. Voices opposing them are considering hate speech and are censored on some social media platforms.

Meanwhile true hate speech continues on Twitter and is ignored.

Individual rights like free speech shouldn't depend on gender, skin color, religion, sexual orientation and/or political affiliations.


Access to a platform isn't a right, it's a privilege. Trump was banned for persistent ToS violations. They don't owe him their service as a fluffer, especially when he's already been perma-b&.

They wouldn't promote an ISIS leader's speech, no matter how popular that leader was. Why should other terrorist leaders not be treated similarly?



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02 Mar 2021, 5:41 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


The problem is who determines what is hate speech and what is not. Political speech shouldn't be moderated or considered hate speech but today that is the norm. Democratic Party political propaganda seeks to divide people by skin color, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation for the sole purpose of favoring some groups while blaming and hating others. Voices opposing them are considering hate speech and are censored on some social media platforms.

Meanwhile true hate speech continues on Twitter and is ignored.

Individual rights like free speech shouldn't depend on gender, skin color, religion, sexual orientation and/or political affiliations.


Access to a platform isn't a right, it's a privilege. Trump was banned for persistent ToS violations. They don't owe him their service as a fluffer, especially when he's already been perma-b&.

They wouldn't promote an ISIS leader's speech, no matter how popular that leader was. Why should other terrorist leaders not be treated similarly?


Ding ding ding. Just because a politician says a thing doesn't make it solely political speech that should be allowed to be said regardless of what it is. Hateful views & terrible things are still exactly those and are deserving of censorship, criticism, or even criminal investigation.


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02 Mar 2021, 5:54 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
How is this a problem? :?

They should be commended for helping moderate hate speech on their platform.


The problem is who determines what is hate speech and what is not. Political speech shouldn't be moderated or considered hate speech but today that is the norm. Democratic Party political propaganda seeks to divide people by skin color, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation for the sole purpose of favoring some groups while blaming and hating others. Voices opposing them are considering hate speech and are censored on some social media platforms.

Meanwhile true hate speech continues on Twitter and is ignored.

Individual rights like free speech shouldn't depend on gender, skin color, religion, sexual orientation and/or political affiliations.


Access to a platform isn't a right, it's a privilege. Trump was banned for persistent ToS violations. They don't owe him their service as a fluffer, especially when he's already been perma-b&.

They wouldn't promote an ISIS leader's speech, no matter how popular that leader was. Why should other terrorist leaders not be treated similarly?


Ding ding ding. Just because a politician says a thing doesn't make it solely political speech that should be allowed to be said regardless of what it is. Hateful views & terrible things are still exactly those and are deserving of censorship, criticism, or even criminal investigation.


To be fair, since he's a wealthy man of the correct complexion and political leanings, his hate speech was historically protected so the freak-out alt-right types are having isn't that unreasonable. Historically we've been far too protective of incitement when it comes from certain segments of the political spectrum.

Trump and his supporters don't need to be judged because of their skin colour, the demonstrated contents of their characters are adequate enough to make one judge them negatively.



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02 Mar 2021, 5:56 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Access to a platform isn't a right, it's a privilege. Trump was banned for persistent ToS violations. They don't owe him their service as a fluffer, especially when he's already been perma-b&.

They wouldn't promote an ISIS leader's speech, no matter how popular that leader was. Why should other terrorist leaders not be treated similarly?
^ This.
Trump was also free to shoot his poisonous mouth off for much longer than anyone else would have been allowed.


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02 Mar 2021, 5:56 pm

The problem seems to be the large number of people who equate "speech that they hate" with "hate speech", whether through lack of understanding of the difference between these categories or an intentional choice on their behalf to combine them both under the one heading as it helps their agenda\"side".



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02 Mar 2021, 5:59 pm

Pepe wrote:
It is well known that twitter is left-leaning.
It is supposed to be a 'Platform', so it shouldn't censor to favour their political leaning, but they obviously do. 8O
Kicking someone off a forum for repeatedly violating the site rules isn't censorship, and neither is Twitter another of your left-wing bogeymen.


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02 Mar 2021, 6:06 pm

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The problem seems to be the large number of people who equate "speech that they hate" with "hate speech", whether through lack of understanding of the difference between these categories or an intentional choice on their behalf to combine them both under the one heading as it helps their agenda\"side".


If one consistently peddles in demeaning stereotypes and goes out of their way to treat groups of people as permanent others as the man in question was notorious for, it isn't honest to insist those condemning him for hate speech are just using that term to describe any speech they merely disagree with.

Claiming this amounts to little more than a poor attempt at invalidating those who have raised valid criticisms of Trump.