'White Lives Matter' rallies flop as hardly anyone shows up

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11 Apr 2021, 6:14 pm

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In semi-private, encrypted chats, neo-Nazis and other far-right extremists planned rallies in dozens of cities on Sunday to promote their racist movements and spread their ideologies to larger audiences.

Hyped by organizers as events that would make “the whole world tremble,” the rallies ran into a major problem on Sunday: Hardly anyone showed up.

The “White Lives Matter” rallies, planned on the encrypted app Telegram, were the first major real-world organization efforts by white supremacists since 2018, and after many aligned groups allegedly participated in the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S Capitol.

The poor showing underscores how the nation’s unpopular and disorganized extremist movements have been driven underground by increased scrutiny from the media, law enforcement and far left activists who infiltrate extremists’ private online spaces and disrupt their attempts to communicate and organize.

Few “White Lives Matter” marchers showed up on Sunday, but anti-racist and anti-fascist groups gathered just the same.

In Raleigh, North Carolina, a small crowd of antifa and anti-racist protesters gathered at the park where the “White Lives Matter” march was planned. They marched around downtown behind a large white sign that read, “WE ACCEPT YOUR SURRENDER.”

The lackluster events were documented by livestreams and photos posted to Twitter.

In Philadelphia, activists tweeted photos of a counterprotest picnic with pizza and Tastykake snacks. In New York City, over a dozen counterprotesters stood seemingly unopposed across the street from Trump Tower, where a “White Lives Matter” rally was expected.

Police in downtown Albuquerque, New Mexico, formed a circle around a lone protester to separate him from a large crowd of counterprotesters. Three protesters assembled around a “White Lives Matter” banner outside the city hall building in Fort Worth, Texas, where a police line separated them from a couple of dozen counterprotesters.

Hundreds of counterprotesters, bystanders and media members gathered at a counterprotest at the scheduled start time of a “White Lives Matter” march at Southern California’s Huntington Beach Pier.

Throughout the afternoon, counterprotesters could be seen on several livestreams chanting “Unity and community,” and “Black lives matter.” A few single protesters, one who wore a full hood and a T-shirt with a white supremacist slogan, were run off by the crowd, who yelled “Go home, Nazis!”


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12 Apr 2021, 8:15 am

Brandy Zadrozny, for NBC News, wrote:
... The poor showing underscores how the nation's unpopular and disorganized extremist movements have been driven underground by increased scrutiny from the media, law enforcement and far left activists who infiltrate extremists’ private online spaces and disrupt their attempts to communicate and organize. ...
John, the Beloved, wrote:
"Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed." -- John 3:20, NIV
Enough said?


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12 Apr 2021, 12:04 pm



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12 Apr 2021, 12:44 pm

I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.



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12 Apr 2021, 12:54 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.
Another red herring?  Give it up, already.

The point is that WLM threw a party and no one bothered to show up.  Several parties, in fact.

The Media is not trolling so much as it is laughing its collective arses off at the clown act WLM has become.


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12 Apr 2021, 1:14 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.


The article didn't specifically say that the groups were "White Lives Matter" groups? I'da swore they did. Wild.
Well, they were explicitly organized as "White Lives Matter" rallies, so that's still pretty specific. Or were you expecting something like "Rally Union Number 24776, The EastWest SharkJets, out of new jersey"

There's more to holding a rally or a protest than just announcing it and showing up. You do have to officially register the event with the city. Someone has to do that. You'd think at least the person who went to the trouble of registering the event would at least show up. Also, it's hard to name names of people who DON'T show up. And if they did name names, then there'd be endless wailing about "cAnCeL CuLtUrE!" - whereas if they don't name names someone complains about that, too, and says they should have. But again, people didn't show up.

As such, here's the list of names of people who showed up:

1.

And there you go.

Fnord has a point. They shot their shot, and nobody joined in. Sad trombone.



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12 Apr 2021, 1:39 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.


The article didn't specifically say that the groups were "White Lives Matter" groups? I'da swore they did. Wild.
Well, they were explicitly organized as "White Lives Matter" rallies, so that's still pretty specific. Or were you expecting something like "Rally Union Number 24776, The EastWest SharkJets, out of new jersey"

There's more to holding a rally or a protest than just announcing it and showing up. You do have to officially register the event with the city. Someone has to do that. You'd think at least the person who went to the trouble of registering the event would at least show up. Also, it's hard to name names of people who DON'T show up. And if they did name names, then there'd be endless wailing about "cAnCeL CuLtUrE!" - whereas if they don't name names someone complains about that, too, and says they should have. But again, people didn't show up.

As such, here's the list of names of people who showed up:

1.

And there you go.

Fnord has a point. They shot their shot, and nobody joined in. Sad trombone.

I guess there was a point to what you just posted but it escapes me.
What if it were an "Asian Lives Matter" rally would that be racist?
Would a "Native Lives Matter" rally be racist?
Is "Black Lives Matter" racist?
I believe ALL lives matter regardless of their color. Why are some encouraged to be racist while others are seen as inherently racist just by virtue of their existence?



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12 Apr 2021, 2:31 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.


The article didn't specifically say that the groups were "White Lives Matter" groups? I'da swore they did. Wild.
Well, they were explicitly organized as "White Lives Matter" rallies, so that's still pretty specific. Or were you expecting something like "Rally Union Number 24776, The EastWest SharkJets, out of new jersey"

There's more to holding a rally or a protest than just announcing it and showing up. You do have to officially register the event with the city. Someone has to do that. You'd think at least the person who went to the trouble of registering the event would at least show up. Also, it's hard to name names of people who DON'T show up. And if they did name names, then there'd be endless wailing about "cAnCeL CuLtUrE!" - whereas if they don't name names someone complains about that, too, and says they should have. But again, people didn't show up.

As such, here's the list of names of people who showed up:

1.

And there you go.

Fnord has a point. They shot their shot, and nobody joined in. Sad trombone.

I guess there was a point to what you just posted but it escapes me.
What if it were an "Asian Lives Matter" rally would that be racist?
Would a "Native Lives Matter" rally be racist?
Is "Black Lives Matter" racist?
I believe ALL lives matter regardless of their color. Why are some encouraged to be racist while others are seen as inherently racist just by virtue of their existence?


You seem confused. Only one of us even mentioned racism, and it wasn't me. You're the one that invoked the notion of stirring up racial tensions.

I said the specific name of the group that set up the rallies, in response to you apparently being confused about the specific groups involved (however small the involvement). You mentioned racism, not me. I just expressed mirth at the fact that their attempt fell flat.

People usually go to demonstrations cos they're mad enough to devote their time to that event rather than just living their life. Nobody showed up, so maybe there's not that much for them to be outraged over after all. Desperate people will make the time. Comfortable people won't see the need in the first place.



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12 Apr 2021, 2:39 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.


The article didn't specifically say that the groups were "White Lives Matter" groups? I'da swore they did. Wild.
Well, they were explicitly organized as "White Lives Matter" rallies, so that's still pretty specific. Or were you expecting something like "Rally Union Number 24776, The EastWest SharkJets, out of new jersey"

There's more to holding a rally or a protest than just announcing it and showing up. You do have to officially register the event with the city. Someone has to do that. You'd think at least the person who went to the trouble of registering the event would at least show up. Also, it's hard to name names of people who DON'T show up. And if they did name names, then there'd be endless wailing about "cAnCeL CuLtUrE!" - whereas if they don't name names someone complains about that, too, and says they should have. But again, people didn't show up.

As such, here's the list of names of people who showed up:

1.

And there you go.

Fnord has a point. They shot their shot, and nobody joined in. Sad trombone.

I guess there was a point to what you just posted but it escapes me.
What if it were an "Asian Lives Matter" rally would that be racist?
Would a "Native Lives Matter" rally be racist?
Is "Black Lives Matter" racist?
I believe ALL lives matter regardless of their color. Why are some encouraged to be racist while others are seen as inherently racist just by virtue of their existence?

I got to hand it to you. You're extremely good at side-stepping the issue and a master at the art of the "Non-Answer"! Ever consider a career as an elected official?



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12 Apr 2021, 3:24 pm

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I got to hand it to you. You're extremely good at side-stepping the issue and a master at the art of the "Non-Answer"! Ever consider a career as an elected official?
Pot ... Kettle ... Black.

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12 Apr 2021, 6:08 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.

Fox and right wing outlets are also "mainstream media" and also love stirring up dumb culture wars. Even if they aren't technically mainstream, right wing outlets are always funded by multi-millionaires, if the hosts aren't millionaires themselves. Corporate media is center-right economics + support for US imperialism + dunking on Trump and calling the right racist. They all stir up s**t to make money for themselves while getting you to believe there are "two sides". But yea, the right loves complaining about Mr. Potato Head being de-genendered or whatever while homeless people die in the streets. The only real war going on is the rich vs the poor, and the rich own the media and dictate culture wars and idpol to keep the poor masses at each other's throats. FOX and MSNBC and CNN are the same thing.



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NoClearMind53 wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.

Fox and right wing outlets are also "mainstream media" and also love stirring up dumb culture wars. Even if they aren't technically mainstream, right wing outlets are always funded by multi-millionaires, if the hosts aren't millionaires themselves. Corporate media is center-right economics + support for US imperialism + dunking on Trump and calling the right racist. They all stir up s**t to make money for themselves while getting you to believe there are "two sides". But yea, the right loves complaining about Mr. Potato Head being de-genendered or whatever while homeless people die in the streets. The only real war going on is the rich vs the poor, and the rich own the media and dictate culture wars and idpol to keep the poor masses at each other's throats. FOX and MSNBC and CNN are the same thing.

I don't watch FOX News, but, Yeah, Whatever..........



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13 Apr 2021, 12:59 pm

The Left doesn't oppose racism so long as one is racist against the correct race.



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Mr Reynholm wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I kind of suspect that this event and the NBC story may just be an attempt to troll the public. No specific groups or people were mentioned. The mainstream media enjoys stirring up racial tensions.


The article didn't specifically say that the groups were "White Lives Matter" groups? I'da swore they did. Wild.
Well, they were explicitly organized as "White Lives Matter" rallies, so that's still pretty specific. Or were you expecting something like "Rally Union Number 24776, The EastWest SharkJets, out of new jersey"

There's more to holding a rally or a protest than just announcing it and showing up. You do have to officially register the event with the city. Someone has to do that. You'd think at least the person who went to the trouble of registering the event would at least show up. Also, it's hard to name names of people who DON'T show up. And if they did name names, then there'd be endless wailing about "cAnCeL CuLtUrE!" - whereas if they don't name names someone complains about that, too, and says they should have. But again, people didn't show up.

As such, here's the list of names of people who showed up:

1.

And there you go.

Fnord has a point. They shot their shot, and nobody joined in. Sad trombone.

I guess there was a point to what you just posted but it escapes me.
What if it were an "Asian Lives Matter" rally would that be racist?
Would a "Native Lives Matter" rally be racist?
Is "Black Lives Matter" racist?
I believe ALL lives matter regardless of their color. Why are some encouraged to be racist while others are seen as inherently racist just by virtue of their existence?

I got to hand it to you. You're extremely good at side-stepping the issue and a master at the art of the "Non-Answer"! Ever consider a career as an elected official?


...he said, unironically, as he changed the subject in the form of an ad-hominem non-sequitur, that in no way adds to the conversation at hand.

"Side-stepping non-answer!" he cried, with his side-stepping non-answer...

...aaaaaaand "nyoom!", right over his head it goes...



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13 Apr 2021, 2:48 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
The Left doesn't oppose racism so long as one is racist against the correct race.


Oh do tell? Please, elaborate more on how exactly this works. Regale us with your mighty wisdom regarding this mechanism for selective racism. In as much detail as you can, please.

Something more than a few soundbites, and some internet links that do the talking FOR you.

YOU explain it, since you seem to understand it so well.