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I wasn't even referring to the civil rights era, what I was describing has been entirely since the civil rights era.

Instead of addressing my points you bring up another issue that you've chosen to narrowly focus on as though failings within the school system are the only matter that contributes to systemic and institutional racism.

You started this talking about the klan and civil rights and now are moving the goal posts. Sorry but it's tough to follow.

The civil rights era is still with us and that's the point. Segregation throughout our society is still there and is still supported by those who continue to call themselves progressives. Our president is one of those segregationists and progressives. You can't run from that reality simply because it destroys your worldview.

What did I say that was propaganda? Literally every single statement I made can be verified by checking the ICC records on Israel, UN records on Israel condemning it for its human rights violations in the West Bank and Gaza, and even reading what former IDF soldiers like Yanaton Shapiro have to say about the IDF:

https://www.wrmea.org/005-april/special ... senik.html

Where was the propaganda in stating facts? What ever happened to "facts and logic dont care about your feelings"

And also, are you not forgetting that since the beginning of the Palestine-Israel conflict almost all of the aggression and genocides that happened in this conflict came from Israel towards the Arabs and not the other way around, so how can you seriously try to unironically aver that the IDF is there to protect against genocide when the lion's share of the genocide so far has come from IDF??

The IDF themselves admitted that in Gaza they were told to shoot ALL targets regardless of if they were civilian or combatant, which is literally the textbook definition of genocide:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archi ... -gaza-war/

Actual Israeli historians have written books literally documenting and substantiating actual genocides against the Palestinian peoples by going to this historical Israeli archives from 1948 and detailing overt admissions and statements from Israeli war criminals gleefully admitting to genocide:

https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing ... 1851685553

Is anything that makes Israel look bad now considered propaganda, no matter how abundant the evidence.

It's very telling that you refuse to address my question and continue with the propaganda.

He's a liberal who's supported racist policies in the past and would prefer to not be held accountable for it. I won't argue that.

How does that impact my worldview though? He's still less terrible than Donald Trump because he doesn't openly court racists for their support now. Being less terrible doesn't make him good it just makes him better. Being able to point out that some conservative Democrats also supported New Deal policies doesn't make them somehow a problem for socialists. I'd prefer anyone with ties to so called Blue Dog democrats to not run for election or otherwise be significantly involved in the party. It doesn't mean I'd start pretending the Klan isn't entirely filled with Republicans these days.

It's telling how you conveniently ignore reality whenever it conflicts with your argument.

Biden supports racist policies today that deny African American families with kids in failing, violent schools opportunities to put their kids in better schools. Trump ended prison terms for thousands of African Americans that were targeted and put in prison with long sentences because of legislation from Biden and his long time segregationist buddy Strom Thurmond.

How many Klansmen exactly have you spoken to and determined they are not progressives? Andrew Jackson was a progressive. David Duke is a progressive. LBJ was a progressive. Robert Byrd was a progressive. Joe Biden is a progressive. I can go on and on.

And I see that now progressive really means conservative when you want it to. Back to the mental gymnastics.

David Duke is a conservative Republican, and with that you've lost all credibility.

Better read up on David Duke. I grew up in the 1970's. You've lost all credibility.

Tell me exactly how a man who was the head of the KKK became a Democrat in the late 1960's after the supposed party switch and ran for many different political offices including the Presidential nomination as a Democrat?

Just to be clear you mean this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

He's ran for governor of Louisiana as a Republican, he's ran for president as a Republican. He's ran for Senate as a Republican and he's ran for a House seat as a Republican. He's endorsed Donald Trump and self-identifies with the alt-right.

That's the guy you're trying to pretend is a progressive?



Shenanigans. There's no way you're serious.

Our schools and communities remain segregated because of the progressives who continue to block bussing and expanded school options for the African American community. It's simply fact.

Name one progressive who supports desegregation and allowing African American students in totally segregated school districts options to go to better schools outside their segregated schools. Just give me one.

I pretend nothing. Tell the whole story and stop cherry-picking only things that align with your worldview.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duk ... l_campaign

It's not cherry picking to prioritize the past 30 years instead of stuff that happened before I started kindergarten.

He's actually a perfect case-study in southern racists switching parties so I'm surprised you brought him up.

When exactly did he switch? He was a Democrat for most of my youth in the 1970's and 1980's and then he bounced around from the populist party and then the reform party. He became a Republican for a few years to run for a state congressional seat in Louisiana in about 1990 and then went back to the reform party in the Ross Perot days. Trump supported Perot but famously left the reform party because they accepted Duke. I think it's just in the past few years that he says he is a Republican. I'm surprised you don't know the truth about David Duke.

I'm not afraid of facts. That's why I bring up David Duke.

When did Al Gore Sr switch? What about Robert Byrd or George Wallace? What about John Stennis or Herman Talmadge? Joe Eastland? William Fulbright? And what about Joe Biden? There were hundreds of progressive Democrats in the House and Senate in the 1960's and 1970's who were racists just like Duke. If the great switch is not propaganda, you ought to easily be able to come up with 10 out of the hundreds that switched. Let's have it.

I'm not sure there's many good examples of individual politicians and I'm really not going to bother to research it.

If you look at voting patterns the same populist voters in the south shifted from identifying as Democrats to Republicans. David Duke makes a good example of this because he's not a progressive or a Democrat first and foremost, he's a white nationalist and southern populist. Some southern Democrats were cut from the same cloth, others just knew they needed to win those votes. Both are abhorrent but how does that have anything to do with AOC or the other Democrats I do endorse? I don't support Biden or other centrist Democrats so why should I defend them?

Does Stacy Abrams owe an apology because racist populist southerners were part of the party when she was in grade school?

Your argument boils down to trying to blame progressives now for how the party was 50 years ago meanwhile you endorse people who openly court the same white nationalists you use to smear progressives with.

Republicans figured out how to leverage the resentment of those racists to get them to turn against the same New Deal programs they both enjoyed and benefited from. That's evidence of what motivates them and what they prioritize, those people were never progressives.

With a very few notable exceptions, there are no racist democrats from the house and senate in the 1960's and 1970's who switched. Those progressive bigots died as Democrats. It's fact.

David Duke makes a perfect example because he was for decades a Democrat. He briefly became a Republican in about 1990 to opportunistically run for a state senate seat and immediately left the party afterwards.

Progressive Democrats up until 2016 were largely anti-immigrant compared to Republicans. They were the party of union workers and farmers and wanted to protect those jobs from migrants and push wages higher. They always claimed Republicans wanted cheap labor from open immigration to fuel economic growth by driving labor costs lower. Trump himself switched that around himself and the Republican party became the party of workers and farmers. It's why he won in 2016. Immigration and border security is why David Duke became a Republican at that same time.

To me, anti-immigration is still a progressive stance to protect workers.

Here's some facts from the Obama era:

https://www.cato.org/publications/comme ... mmigration

It's not just Southern Democrats who were and are racists. Again, let's not leave out the bigots like Keith Ellison, Robert Byrd, and Joe Biden who weren't and aren't even from the South. Let's also agree that segregation is modern day racism and the all Democrats today continue to embrace the forced segregation of our schools.

Is segregation also a progressive value? Is the 'separate but equal' doctrine going back to the 1890's and enforced today by denying African Americans school choices progressive? It seems impossible to say it's not.

If Stacey Abrams and other progressives owe an apology to someone it should be to African American families who are forced to send their children to segregated schools where almost no child is proficient in basic math and reading. That's not just the Democratic Party of 50 years ago. It's also the same party today and it's still a travesty.