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07 Jun 2021, 8:56 pm

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Q instructed them to find a round room and look for the corner.They are still there.


A large swathe of Republicans believe in the Q conspiracy theories
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... 927b17f91f



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08 Jun 2021, 3:26 am

Trump has emboldened people to behave like this at a school public meeting


If find this woman and her obsessions quite frightening and had I been at the school meeting would have physically removed her myself



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08 Jun 2021, 9:05 am

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Trump has emboldened people to behave like this at a school public meeting


If find this woman and her obsessions quite frightening and had I been at the school meeting would have physically removed her myself

I don’t know her or her school district so I have no idea about her specific claims but I have posted a number of examples happening in education very similar to what she is yelling about.

Since this is another Trump thread if one is interested in Republicans taking control of Congress in 2022 thus giving them the power not to certify the 2024 election keep on forcing critical race theory education, training, and policies. People may get angry about some Disney character being canceled but at the end of the day will usually vote pocketbook and war and peace issues. As we know from the ND movement if you are percieved as messing around with peoples kids look out.


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08 Jun 2021, 9:27 pm

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but at the end of the day will usually vote pocketbook and war and peace issues. As we know from the ND movement if you are percieved as messing around with peoples kids look out.


The pocketbook rationale should have transpired with republican primaries back in 2016 but you will remember that republican voters threw caution to the wind and voted to have a complete nutjob look after their finances instead of the alternative candidates who (while not my cup of tea) were at least career politicians who understood about the economy.

This gets back again to why republicans still like Donald Trump when he technically represents everything they are insecure about namely being anti-establishment, radical and totally lacking integrity. I think this remains the biggest mystery? don't you think?



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08 Jun 2021, 9:33 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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but at the end of the day will usually vote pocketbook and war and peace issues. As we know from the ND movement if you are percieved as messing around with peoples kids look out.


The pocketbook rationale should have transpired with republican primaries back in 2016 but you will remember that republican voters threw caution to the wind and voted to have a complete nutjob look after their finances instead of the alternative candidates who (while not my cup of tea) were at least career politicians who understood about the economy.

This gets back again to why republicans still like Donald Trump when he technically represents everything they are insecure about namely being anti-establishment, radical and totally lacking integrity. I think this remains the biggest mystery? don't you think?


When you say alternate candidates there was only one other candidate to pick from, Clinton, or so it seemed. But this is a problem in America's elections in my opinion, is that there is always only two people to pick from.



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09 Jun 2021, 12:09 am

ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
but at the end of the day will usually vote pocketbook and war and peace issues. As we know from the ND movement if you are percieved as messing around with peoples kids look out.


The pocketbook rationale should have transpired with republican primaries back in 2016 but you will remember that republican voters threw caution to the wind and voted to have a complete nutjob look after their finances instead of the alternative candidates who (while not my cup of tea) were at least career politicians who understood about the economy.

This gets back again to why republicans still like Donald Trump when he technically represents everything they are insecure about namely being anti-establishment, radical and totally lacking integrity. I think this remains the biggest mystery? don't you think?


When you say alternate candidates there was only one other candidate to pick from, Clinton, or so it seemed. But this is a problem in America's elections in my opinion, is that there is always only two people to pick from.


In the republican primaries the GOP voters opted for manman Trump over

John Kasich
Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
Ben Carson
Jeb Bush
Jim Gilmore
Chris Christie
Carly Fiorina
Rick Santorum
Rand Paul
Mike Huckabee

I don't support these people but any of them would have been a more appropriate candidate than a circus act like Trump.



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09 Jun 2021, 12:28 am

cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
but at the end of the day will usually vote pocketbook and war and peace issues. As we know from the ND movement if you are percieved as messing around with peoples kids look out.


The pocketbook rationale should have transpired with republican primaries back in 2016 but you will remember that republican voters threw caution to the wind and voted to have a complete nutjob look after their finances instead of the alternative candidates who (while not my cup of tea) were at least career politicians who understood about the economy.

This gets back again to why republicans still like Donald Trump when he technically represents everything they are insecure about namely being anti-establishment, radical and totally lacking integrity. I think this remains the biggest mystery? don't you think?


When you say alternate candidates there was only one other candidate to pick from, Clinton, or so it seemed. But this is a problem in America's elections in my opinion, is that there is always only two people to pick from.


In the republican primaries the GOP voters opted for manman Trump over

John Kasich
Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
Ben Carson
Jeb Bush
Jim Gilmore
Chris Christie
Carly Fiorina
Rick Santorum
Rand Paul
Mike Huckabee

I don't support these people but any of them would have been a more appropriate candidate than a circus act like Trump.


You forgot Lindsey Graham, Rick Perry, George Pataki and Bobby Jindal.

Pataki, Jeb Bush and Kasich were probably the most reasonable.


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09 Jun 2021, 12:32 am

When you go to vote at the polls were all these people's names on the voting ballots? Who's names were on the ballots if not?



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09 Jun 2021, 12:35 am

A lot of the candidates were reasonable, especially when compared to Trump.



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09 Jun 2021, 1:34 am

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When you go to vote at the polls were all these people's names on the voting ballots? Who's names were on the ballots if not?


Along with the two major parties (with the only realistic chance to win) there are plenty of other names representing other parties on the ballot, such a Libertarians, Socialists, Communists, etc. Even independents.


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09 Jun 2021, 1:39 am

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ironpony wrote:
When you go to vote at the polls were all these people's names on the voting ballots? Who's names were on the ballots if not?


Along with the two major parties (with the only realistic chance to win) there are plenty of other names representing other parties on the ballot, such a Libertarians, Socialists, Communists, etc. Even independents.


That's during a presidential election. The list of names given above were referring to the 2016 Republican primaries/caucuses.

To vote in one of those, you have to be registered with that party. Afterward, when all the states have their primaries or caucuses, the winner becomes presidential candidate for the party. Only ONE candidate per party.

I think that's what ironpony was asking about.



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09 Jun 2021, 1:49 am

Oh well it's just in American elections they always make it appear that there are only two canditates. For example, last year I watched the national debate Trump and Biden before the election, but if there were more candiates than just those two, why were those two the only ones at the debate for example? This is just an example as to how they try to sell it like there are only two candidates.



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09 Jun 2021, 2:23 am

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Oh well it's just in American elections they always make it appear that there are only two canditates. For example, last year I watched the national debate Trump and Biden before the election, but if there were more candiates than just those two, why were those two the only ones at the debate for example? This is just an example as to how they try to sell it like there are only two candidates.


For a presidential election, there is ONE Republican candidate and ONE Democratic candidate. There are also a few other "third party" candidates. Yet, not all third party candidates make it to the ballots in all states. A third party candidate in New York might not be on the ballot in Texas. Only the two main parties have the power and money to get their candidates on ALL state ballots. So, nationwide, there are only two constant candidates who appear on all state ballots, ONE Republican and ONE Democrat. For this reason, third party candidates are usually ignored.

Months before the election, the parties hold what are called primaries (or caucuses) in each state. If you're a registered member of the party, you get to vote who you want to be candidate in the presidential election.

Now, in 2020, Trump was up for re-election; there were Republican primaries/caucuses that year, but they're mostly ceremonial. The sitting president traditionally wins his party's nomination.

However, what Democrat would run against him? A bunch of Democrats all ran against each other to see who would get to run against Trump. You may remember Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg who were "running for president." In reality, they were running for the nomination from the Democratic party. After all the primaries/caucus votings across the country were done, Biden won the Democratic nomination.

So, that November, it was Trump (the current Republican president) vs. Biden (who won the Democrat nomination).



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09 Jun 2021, 10:50 am

Oh I see. So is this case in point that there are only two real people to choose from and that's the problem is that there are only two real choices?



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09 Jun 2021, 10:52 am

Unfortunately, we've been under a two party system, for all intents and purposes, since the 19th century.



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09 Jun 2021, 11:07 am

Hmmm, I lived in a very conservative state for a while and moved there from a very liberal one, a lot of assumptions were made about my political leanings, it was fun to debate, and challenge people's thinking. I say, stand your ground, be yourself, you can be conservative and not an asshat, and you can be liberal and not an asshat, some people don't understand that there is diversity within groups. With that said, I can understand why someone would vote for trump and why someone would not, and I think that makes all the difference in terms of being tolerant.


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