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11 May 2021, 3:19 pm

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11 May 2021, 3:26 pm

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Peace in Harmony With Love Yes i Agree...

The Loving Your Neighbor And Even

Enemy Part A Challenge Yet Possible too...

"If it matters don't mind,

if you mind it don't matter"

Great Advice by Tupac...

By the Way One of my
Best Friends Is A Muslim
Woman She Calls My Style

Of Writing Heaven on Wings...

i Have Many Other Muslim

Women FRiEnDS Who

Relate The Same

About my

Writing

Style...

Muslim

Men

Hardly

Any for

'SoMe ReaSon"

Usually The Same

Applies to Other Religions too...

Go Figure HeHe...

Other than

That

i Exist

And Breathe...

Have A Nice Day...

Actually My Post Was

About Peace Yet my Style And Truth iN DarK Thru LiGHT May

Be Hard to See And Hear For Some And That's Okay With me...

i Exist... i Exist.. Riders in the Storm We All Are Let's Try to Get ALonG iN Peace..:)




You are Beautiful :heart:


Thank You..:)

My eyes hurt though when I have to read your "style" and i'm worn out in all Aspects. Like sight and hearing and they demonstrate is "superiour power". .... I was thinking Porn Stars are Beautiful (so are you).

I'd rather have a real relationship. I'm too old now, but may God Muhammed and Ali be with you :)


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11 May 2021, 7:58 pm

Dear OP,

Jordan Peterson is saying these things while at the same time creating and feeding into exactly such a victim-narrative. In his narrative, it's white men who are the victim of a fictitious enemy, the feminist postmodern neomarxist.
Always beware when listening to him, he is certainly not non-ideological. (That doesn't mean everything he says is wrong, but you have to take it with a spoonful or more of salt. What he says is often founded on disproven science, wild speculation, or simply "thinking sbout it very long and hard"...)


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12 May 2021, 12:13 am

Dry Dry Sea wrote:

My eyes hurt though when I have to read your "style" and i'm worn out in all Aspects. Like sight and hearing and they demonstrate is "superiour power". .... I was thinking Porn Stars are Beautiful (so are you).

I'd rather have a real relationship. I'm too old now, but may God Muhammed and Ali be with you :)




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i'm Called Beast, Not Beauty at the Gym And Yes

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to Women Friends At Least With SMiLes...

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It Only Measures Them After They Exist And Hehe,

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12 May 2021, 2:24 am

I can't read ... you are making no sense. Paradixically, yes.


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12 May 2021, 7:01 am

This is also what happens when you have a power vacuum. Israel has gone through four elections and still can not get any thing remotely like a stable government together. War has been a traditional way politicians deflect from their own political and legal troubles.

As I understand it the Palestinian Authority canceled an election when it looked like Hamas would win so Hamas needed to do something to prove they are the true defenders of the Palestinian people. More importantly the Abraham Accords had effectively made the Palestinians irrelevant as countries such as Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates formed alliances with Israel because fear of Iran replaced fear of their populations support of the Palestinians. The site of Jewish troops storming one of Islam's holiest places provided the the perfect opportunity for Hamas and the Palestinians to say “hey we are still here, still the ones resisting the Judeo-Christian crusaders”.

The biggest question I have and probably Face of Boo can provide some insight is what does Hezbollah do? They stayed on the sidelines though all the previous Hamas-Israel wars, stayed on the sidelines as Israel attacked their Iranian overlords for over a decade sans resistance. Their entry would change the calculus of the war. With their 100,000 or so rockets that are better quality then Hamas’s they can if not defeat Israel set it back a decade or two and force them to to concede enough to shatter the aura of invincibility they have. What does Hezbollah fear more irrelevancy if they say out of it again or possible Israeli nuclear retaliation ie The Sampson Option?


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12 May 2021, 8:11 am

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This is also what happens when you have a power vacuum. Israel has gone through four elections and still can not get any thing remotely like a stable government together. War has been a traditional way politicians deflect from their own political and legal troubles.

As I understand it the Palestinian Authority canceled an election when it looked like Hamas would win so Hamas needed to do something to prove they are the true defenders of the Palestinian people. More importantly the Abraham Accords had effectively made the Palestinians irrelevant as countries such as Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates formed alliances with Israel because fear of Iran replaced fear of their populations support of the Palestinians. The site of Jewish troops storming one of Islam's holiest places provided the the perfect opportunity for Hamas and the Palestinians to say “hey we are still here, still the ones resisting the Judeo-Christian crusaders”.

The biggest question I have and probably Face of Boo can provide some insight is what does Hezbollah do? They stayed on the sidelines though all the previous Hamas-Israel wars, stayed on the sidelines as Israel attacked their Iranian overlords for over a decade sans resistance. Their entry would change the calculus of the war. With their 100,000 or so rockets that are better quality then Hamas’s they can if not defeat Israel set it back a decade or two and force them to to concede enough to shatter the aura of invincibility they have. What does Hezbollah fear more irrelevancy if they say out of it again or possible Israeli nuclear retaliation ie The Sampson Option?



Lebanon's economy is on the verge of total collapse, Hezbollah's community not totally immune to it, so initiating any war would be a suicide and may turn very ugly internally.

Besides, Iran are in good terms now with the Biden's administration, I don't think they would make a move that affects negatively the negotiations - Hezbollah is just an iranian puppet after all. Hamas while supported by Iran, is not totally its puppet, they're a Muslim brotherhood offshoot after all and therefore have different international affiliations.


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12 May 2021, 8:38 am

Dry Dry Sea wrote:
I can't read ... you are making no sense. Paradixically, yes.





No, It’s No Paradox.

Other Folks Have the Intelligence
To Understand Each And Every
Word I Speak; It is You who
Have Not Developed the
Kind of Artistic

Intelligence

That Is Required

To Understand Deeper

Parts of Human Experience;

(You Are No Victim Here)

There is Still Time if You

Wish to Try; If Not That

Is Your Choice too; And

Obviously it’s Just

Not Everyone’s

Cup of Tea;

Yet Do Not
Blame Me For
What You Do
Not Have Context
To Understand Now

As if i Am Lacking Intelligence;

Grow

If You
Like;

It’s

What i
Do, When
i Don’t Understand;
i Figure it Out And Evolve,

Like Any Living Tree Reaching Light.



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12 May 2021, 3:59 pm

aghogday wrote:
Dry Dry Sea wrote:
I can't read ... you are making no sense. Paradixically, yes.





No, It’s No Paradox.

[...]
It’s

What i
Do, When
i Don’t Understand;
i Figure it Out And Evolve,

Like Any Living Tree Reaching Light.



Hi, this was much better ^__^

I don't mean to give you "a treat" like a Dog. You are not victim either. I am your Friend.

Approximately I heard a Man was walking forth and back, forth and back very fast. Socrates culminated in: "Speak so I may see you!"

Please feel comfortable talking to us, or me, but let me and us feel comfortable too?

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12 May 2021, 4:50 pm

Israel in chaos: Police arrest hundreds in Jewish-Arab violence across country

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Some 374 people were arrested throughout Israel following intense Jewish-Arab violence and riots that erupted across the country on Wednesday, amid the ongoing fighting between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

A Jewish citizen in his 30s was in critical condition after he was attacked by a mob of Arab demonstrators near Egged Square in the city of Acre. Police said he was attacked in his car by Arab Israeli protesters armed with sticks and stones.

In another incident, in the Tel Aviv suburb of Bat Yam, Jewish extremists marched down main streets, smashing Arab-owned businesses and attacking passersby. One motorcyclist - identified as an Arab - was grabbed in the middle of the street and beaten on live television. Four of the alleged attackers were arrested while chanting "death to Arabs" and "may your village burn."

In Haifa, a 26-year-old man was injured after being run over by a car near the demonstrations in the city. He was evacuated to Rambam Medical Center in the city in light-to-moderate condition

Right wing extremist rioters were also seen in Tiberias and Lod, and more are expected to show up in other cities with a largely mixed Arab and Jewish population.

Due to the severe violence seen in Lod on Monday and Tuesday, the Border Police established a task force headquarters in the city on Wednesday, with a force of some 500 Border Police personnel, including tactical border police, detectives, investigators and other law enforcement personnel.

Posts on social media by settler activists stated that at least 30 Jewish youths from the Yitzhar region in the Samaria district of the West Bank traveled to Lod on Tuesday night and engaged in clashes with Arab rioters.

In the Bedouin town of Hura, rioters set fire to a community police headquarters, Ynet news reported. No injuries or arrests were reported. At the entrance of Rahat, also in the Negev, police arrested five suspects for throwing stones and burning tires along Route 310 and 264.

In Sheikh Jarrah, the flashpoint of Jewish-Arab tensions in Jerusalem, 10 were arrested on suspicion of disorderly conduct and causing property damage, Ynet also reported. Two ultra-Orthodox men in the east of the neighborhood were also injured.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke late Wednesday on the rioting and attempted lynchings taking place Wednesday in Israeli cities, saying that he intends to return law and order.

In a statement to the media, Netanyahu said that "Nothing justifies lynching Arabs among Jews, and nothing justifies lynching Jews in Arabs

IDF Chief of Staff Aviv Kohavi also said at a meeting of the cabinet early Thursday that he opposes using soldiers to restore order in Israeli cities, noting that the military is a "people's army" and not suitable for civilian unrest, Ynet news reported.


I have been looking at twitter videos of the sectarian riots. All the twitter caveats apply the information are both unverified and vulnerable to manipulation. That said I said I did not see any Palestinian flags, just a bunch of Star of Davids.


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12 May 2021, 5:31 pm

Dry Dry Sea wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Dry Dry Sea wrote:
I can't read ... you are making no sense. Paradixically, yes.





No, It’s No Paradox.

[...]
It’s

What i
Do, When
i Don’t Understand;
i Figure it Out And Evolve,

Like Any Living Tree Reaching Light.



Hi, this was much better ^__^

I don't mean to give you "a treat" like a Dog. You are not victim either. I am your Friend.

Approximately I heard a Man was walking forth and back, forth and back very fast. Socrates culminated in: "Speak so I may see you!"

Please feel comfortable talking to us, or me, but let me and us feel comfortable too?

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i Haven't Found Anyone To Make
me Uncomfortable With Words; There
Are No 'Sticks And Stones' With Words
As Tupac Suggests in His Quote As Well...

It's A Big World; i Suggest No Fear of Words
Folks Bring, You May Not Understand; Other than That

i am Here To Write Philosophy; This Is Just A Hobby

And Occasionally

i Write Long

'Koans', Just For Fun too;
If there is Anything You
Wanna Learn in Life, the
Google Search Engine
Is An Excellent Resource too...

Meanwhile, There is A Potential

War to Come in Israel And Palestine; Let's Get Back on Topic, if You Will...

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13 May 2021, 5:48 pm

New York Times Live Updates

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Israeli Ground forces fire into Gaza
Israel said its military ground forces had attacked Gaza early Friday, a major escalation of violence between Palestinians firing rockets into Israel and Israeli forces carrying out airstrikes in Gaza.

The extent of the Israeli assault was not clear. Two hours after it began, the Israel Defense Forces clarified that while ground forces were newly involved in the fighting, no Israeli troops were actually in Gaza, indicating that they were firing from within Israel


Warnings of Civil War as Arabs and Jews Face off violently in Israel’s streets
Clashes between Arab and Jewish mobs on the streets of Israeli cities have given way to warnings from Israeli leaders that the decades-old conflict could be careening toward a civil war. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described the scenes of arson and violence as “anarchy” and appealed for an end to “lynchings.”

When Mr. Netanyahu visited the town of Lod, a mixed Jewish-Arab city, on Thursday, he said that the violence there was motivated by nationalistic rioters and that soldiers from the Israel Defense Forces could be brought in

Alongside those now-familiar scenes, Jewish and Arab citizens have clashed in the worst violence in decades in Israeli cities — stoning cars, burning offices and places of worship, and forming mobs that have dragged people from their vehicles and beat them to within an inch of their lives.

Several Israeli leaders, led by President Reuven Rivlin, evoked the specter of civil war — a once unthinkable idea.

Palestinian leaders, however, said the talk of civil war was a distraction from what they see as the true cause of the unrest — police brutality against Palestinian protesters and provocative actions by right-wing Israeli settler groups.

“The police shot an Arab demonstrators in Lod,” said Ahmed Tibi, the leader of the Ta’al party and a member of Israel’s Parliament, referring to the mixed Arab-Jewish city in Israel where some of the worst clashes occurred. “We don’t want bloodshed. We want to protest.”

Gaza militants and Israeli forces have been trading attacks for days now, ever since a police raid at a Jerusalem mosque atop a site revered by both Muslims and Jews.

The Israeli border police have been deployed in Arab and mixed Arab-Jewish cities in Israel, and Defense Minister Benny Gantz ordered more of the forces into the streets on Thursday after another night of unrest.

In one seaside suburb south of Tel Aviv, dozens of Jewish extremists took turns beating and kicking a man presumed to be Arab, even as he lay motionless on the ground. To the north, in another coastal town, an Arab mob beat a man they thought was Jewish with sticks and rocks, leaving him in a critical condition. Nearby, an Arab mob nearly stabbed to death a man believed to be Jewish.

The Aqsa raid might have been the spark for the current round of hostilities, but the fuel was years of anger from Israel’s Arab minority, who make up about 20 percent of the population. They have full citizenship, but rights advocates say they are victims of dozens of discriminatory regulations.


Arab-Jewish coexistence suddenly ruptured
The hulks of burned out cars and trucks litter the streets of the mixed Arab-Jewish town of Lod, the epicenter of three nights of violence inside Israeli cities that have fed fears the country could be careening toward a civil war.

When the violence spread on Monday from the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem to Gaza, an uneasy coexistence in Lod, deep inside central Israel, abruptly ruptured.

The authorities have declared a state of emergency in the town of about 80,000 people and imposed a night curfew from Wednesday. Armed border police, brought in from the occupied West Bank, were deployed.

But the curfew did little to calm the atmosphere, and both Jews and Arabs described a terrifying night on Wednesday. Arab residents, who account for about 30 percent of the town’s population, rioted while Jewish extremists came from outside Lod and burned Arab cars and property.

On Thursday morning, a Jewish man was stabbed as he walked to synagogue, but he survived.

Shirin al-Hinawi, a 33-year-old Arab resident of Lod who works for the Israeli food company Osem, said her house was charred when rioters threw a Molotov cocktail into her yard on Wednesday night. She lamented that the police did not come to protect her family.

“We ran out of the house without clothes on. It was burning,” she said. “We are not living in Gaza. I’m an Israeli citizen and we didn’t do anything,” she said with tears in her eyes.

But this time, a distinctly different type of violence has spilled over into Israeli cities, some of them with mixed Jewish and Arab populations living closely intertwined lives.

Ramat Eshkol, a hardscrabble neighborhood near the old quarter of Lod, has been one of the hottest flash points of violence in the town. A community of young Orthodox Jews moved there in recent years. Many of them live with Arab neighbors in shared apartment buildings. Israeli flags flying out the windows mark some of the Jewish apartments.

Arab youths in Lod, inflamed by the clashes at the Aqsa compound in Jerusalem and by a long history of discrimination and generations-old fear of displacement, began protesting on Monday night outside a mosque in the old quarter and were dispersed by police who used stun grenades and tear gas, residents said.

That ignited a broader flare-up that then spread to other mixed Jewish-Arab towns and cities in Israel.

By the end of the night on Monday, an Arab man was fatally shot when dozens of stone-throwing protesters approached a building with Jewish residents. Since then, at least four synagogues have been burned as well as a religious school and a military training academy.

Yousef Ezz, a 33-year-old Arab truck driver from Lod, said his truck was burned on Wednesday night.

“People have lost all their faith. This is their last stop,” he said. “I will live and die here and my children will live or die here.”

Tahael Harris, a 27-year-old Jewish woman who lives in a shabby building with a mix of Arab and Jewish citizens opposite the school that was burned, said that for the last three nights, she and her husband and two children have been holed up at home behind locked doors while mobs of Arabs were setting cars on fire and throwing stones.

On Wednesday night, the violence ramped up and the family heard live gunfire.

“There is a feeling it’s only getting worse,” she said. “Before, it was quiet, not perfect, but we were good neighbors. I don’t know where they were last night. I don’t want to ask because I’m scared to hear the answer,” she said, fearing her own neighbors were among the attackers.


The numbers and range of Hamas rockets has caught Israelis by surprise
Palestinian militants have fired some 1,800 rockets from Gaza at Israel this week, far more than in previous clashes, according to Israeli officials, who on Thursday expressed surprise at the size of the barrage and the range of some of the rockets.

Israel’s “Iron Dome” antimissile system has shot down many of the rockets, and many others have struck places where they could do little damage. But some of the rockets, which are unguided, have hit populated areas, blowing up buildings and cars and killing seven people in Israel.

The increasingly sophisticated arsenal of rockets is the primary weapon of Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza. Other groups there, like Islamic Jihad, also have them. Israeli intelligence estimates there are 30,000 rockets and mortar projectiles stockpiled in Gaza.

Hamas was believed before this week to have rockets with ranges approaching 100 miles, and many more with shorter ranges. Israel’s largest cities, Jerusalem and Tel-Aviv, as well as its primary airport, Ben Gurion airport, are within 40 miles of Gaza. The airport has been closed to incoming passenger flights because of the danger, with flights diverted to Ramon airport to the southeast.

But rockets have also been fired at Ramon, more than 110 miles from the nearest part of Gaza. A Hamas spokesman said the rockets aimed at that airport were a new type that could travel 155 miles, putting all of Israel within range of Gaza. The claim could not be verified, and it was not clear how many of the new rockets the group had.

In the past, many of the rockets fired from Gaza were smuggled in from Egypt, or assembled locally from smuggled parts. But in recent years, most have been made in Gaza, with technical assistance from Iran that Hamas has openly acknowledged


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The left and the peacekeepers represents have only 3% representation; It is mostly a right-wing nation.


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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The left and the peacekeepers represents have only 3% representation; It is mostly a right-wing nation.

I'm (incoherently saying) voting center. I'm totally cheif.

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