Belarusian plane hijacking sends ‘alarm bells ringing’

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26 May 2021, 5:11 pm

My understanding is that Putin and Alexander Lukashenko have a strained relationship anyway. I really doubt that Putin will come to his aid should a Belarusian fighter get shot down in similar circumstance and Putin himself knows will face backlash for retorting in response to a plane that isn't his being shot down for hijacking a civilian aircraft containing multiple nationalities. It's just one of those things that crosses a line so far sitting on the fence will be best.

The commercial liner was minutes from leaving their airspace anyway so it could have been possible for other countries to start giving that a fighter some grief.........as I think other countries should do if they receive news a commercial liner is trying to make a runner towards the safety of their airspace because they're being chased and threatened by a fighter.



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26 May 2021, 5:49 pm

Nades wrote:
My understanding is that Putin and Alexander Lukashenko have a strained relationship anyway. I really doubt that Putin will come to his aid should a Belarusian fighter get shot down in similar circumstance and Putin himself knows will face backlash for retorting in response to a plane that isn't his being shot down for hijacking a civilian aircraft containing multiple nationalities. It's just one of those things that crosses a line so far sitting on the fence will be best.

The commercial liner was minutes from leaving their airspace anyway so it could have been possible for other countries to start giving that a fighter some grief.........as I think other countries should do if they receive news a commercial liner is trying to make a runner towards the safety of their airspace because they're being chased and threatened by a fighter.


The whole thing is nonsense.
The fighter plane would shoot down a commercial jet because it had a possible bomb on board that would kill its occupants?
Would shooting down the plane also kill the people? :scratch: :lmao:

Can anyone make a logical argument?
Perhaps I have missed something/k. 8)



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27 May 2021, 3:42 am

Nades wrote:
My understanding is that Putin and Alexander Lukashenko have a strained relationship anyway. I really doubt that Putin will come to his aid should a Belarusian fighter get shot down in similar circumstance and Putin himself knows will face backlash for retorting in response to a plane that isn't his being shot down for hijacking a civilian aircraft containing multiple nationalities. It's just one of those things that crosses a line so far sitting on the fence will be best.

The commercial liner was minutes from leaving their airspace anyway so it could have been possible for other countries to start giving that a fighter some grief.........as I think other countries should do if they receive news a commercial liner is trying to make a runner towards the safety of their airspace because they're being chased and threatened by a fighter.

Putin-Lukashenko relations are strained because Lukashenko has for long time played a delicate game of being pro-Russian but independent.
Any occasion to strenghten Russian influence in Belarus would be welcome by Kremlin.
Putin does not care for backlash. He'll lie and deny simplest facts. What did he do with Crimea? Exactly this.


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27 May 2021, 10:52 pm

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The world ‘can’t ignore’ Belarus plane diversion: Alan Jones
27/05/2021|4min

Sky News host Alan Jones says the world “can’t ignore” the recent plane diversion in Belarus in which it seems Belarusian and/or Russian agents were involved in the operation to arrest a critic of the Belarusian President.

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has been in power for 27 years, and Western Governments “believe that he rigged the last election,” according to Mr Jones.

“Last Sunday… Roman Protasevich at 26 years of age was on a Ryanair flight, flying to Lithuania with his 23-year-old girlfriend,” he said.

“The Ryanair plane – which is an Irish ultra-low-cost airline whose headquarters are Dublin - was intercepted by a Belarus military jet and escorted to Minsk.

“Belarus sent the fighter jet to escort the Ryanair flight, claiming there was a bomb threat.”

When the plane’s passengers disembarked in Minsk, Mr Protasevich and his girlfriend were arrested by police.

“Belarusian authorities have argued the decision to land was made independently by the Ryanair pilot. But transcripts which have been independently verified indicate that Belarus said several times that the plane should land in Minsk,” Mr Jones said.

“The family of these two people believed that one or both will be placed on a terrorism list, facing the death penalty.
Meanwhile, Belarusian authorities have released a video of Protasevich that appears to have been recorded under duress; in it, he is ‘confessing’ to crimes.

“But the opposition leader in Belarus has argued that the 26-year-old was being tortured.”

According to Mr Jones, it seems “the story is simple”.

“Belarusian and/or Russian agents were involved in the operation to arrest Protasevich,” he said.

“A terrorist act again trading on profound American weakness.”


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_625 ... an%20Jones



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28 May 2021, 1:33 pm

I have studied a bit of Russian history and it appears the largest country was literally forged by trauma of invasion.

They started out as small pockets of civilization in the west not far from Modern day Moscow, then they were invaded by the mongols that did plenty of raping and pillaging that left the population heavily traumatized.

At some point they rose up and drove the mongols East across thousands of miles. They didn’t stop there though they were so determined to prevent the same thing happening again they went all the way to the pacific across 12 time zones!

Hundreds of years later the invasion came from the west again more trauma from the French then Hitler. Again they drove the enemy back and with Hitler didn’t stop there.

Again so determined to prevent the same thing happening again the occupation of E Europe started to create a buffer against future invasions.

When the Berlin Wall eventually came down bush promised to not incorporate E Europe into NATO by moving US army towards them.

Then Clinton broke that promise in the 90’s creating the current stand off between Russia and US.

Not saying Putin is a good guy or not corrupt but the whole thing was totally preventable and unnecessary.

The US created a powerful enemy by choice that bit them in the backside in 2016 already and has now buddied up to China creating an even more powerful entity, making nuclear war more likely.

Totally sad and unnecessary.


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28 May 2021, 2:29 pm

If Clinton didn't break Bush's promise, I wouldn't be living in the first world now.


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28 May 2021, 7:35 pm

carlos55 wrote:

Not saying Putin is a good guy or not corrupt.


You don't have to. It is self-evident.

Remember, he is the modern creator of: "Assassins 'R Us".
He has also squirrelled billions of rubles away as a personal fortune and has how many palaces that are his, in all but name?

And he has subverted the time limitations, in regard to leadership, installed a puppet that was under his thumb until he changed the rulz.

Many leaders are totally corrupt. No secrete there.
People shouldn't pretend it isn't the case, unless they want to lose credibility. ;)



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28 May 2021, 7:42 pm

This is one more life Putin has damaged and will hopefully one day pay the price for ... My heart goes out to this young man and what is being done to him and his girlfriend this very moment.



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28 May 2021, 7:48 pm

Juliette wrote:
This is one more life Putin has damaged and will hopefully one day pay the price for ... My heart goes out to this young man and what is being done to him and his girlfriend this very moment.


Putin seems to have a high public approval, assuming that isn't propaganda.
What does that say about the culture in Russia, if they allow that sort of corruption to persist?
We have nothing close to that, here in Australia.



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28 May 2021, 8:00 pm

a culture similar to amuuurican culture, german and italian culture before the war, and spanish culture bestrode by franco, dominated by boot-licking authority-worshippers elevating onto a pedestal a refined thug who pretends to pettily hate the same people they pettily do.



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28 May 2021, 8:16 pm

auntblabby wrote:
a culture similar to amuuurican culture, german and italian culture before the war, and spanish culture bestrode by franco, dominated by boot-licking authority-worshippers elevating onto a pedestal a refined thug who pretends to pettily hate the same people they pettily do.


I deliberately left this out previously, but...
You left out China. :mrgreen:



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31 May 2021, 6:53 pm

I'm not surprised at this, as the leader of Belarus is like any other Dictator; whom, will go to any length to silence dissension or anything that appears to destroy the narrative said dictator has crafted and wants to be the absolute truth.