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04 Aug 2021, 2:33 pm

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You'll learn how to do magick if you do!
I admit, unless I know the person well and to be a walking encyclopaedia (And who has a bunch of other traits, it seems even those who learn critical thinking skills often don't use them well), I tend not to watch long videos posted by others. Cos a lot of time is usually wasted. Most facts are opinions. Anything shorter?
Like maybe a verifiable demonstration, perhaps?

Make Donald Trump publicly admit he was wrong and issue an apology, for instance.


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04 Aug 2021, 7:24 pm

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You'll learn how to do magick if you do!
Pulling another fast one, eh?  You cannot fool me; there is no magick, and I am not about to be tricked into joining the deluded masses of magick believers.  I am also not about to let a YouTube video do my thinking for me.
Fast one? Can't you tell when I'm being sarcastic?

Or were you being sarcastic?


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04 Aug 2021, 7:26 pm

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You'll learn how to do magick if you do! :D


I admit, unless I know the person well and to be a walking encyclopaedia (And who has a bunch of other traits, it seems even those who learn critical thinking skills often don't use them well), I tend not to watch long videos posted by others. Cos a lot of time is usually wasted. Most facts are opinions.

Anything shorter? :D


It's shorter if you only watch the first five minutes. It's more of a parody of magick really.


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05 Aug 2021, 8:20 am

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You'll learn how to do magick if you do!
Pulling another fast one, eh?  You cannot fool me; there is no magick, and I am not about to be tricked into joining the deluded masses of magick believers.  I am also not about to let a YouTube video do my thinking for me.
Fast one? Can't you tell when I'm being sarcastic?  Or were you being sarcastic?
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05 Aug 2021, 10:49 am



iF iT's Hard to understand Metaphor in iMaGiNaTioN Set Free

In Creativity of 'Right Brain Think' Metaphor Bigger Picture Thinking;

God Yes, It's going to be Hard to understand

MagicK, Indeed... Once Again 'Class',

MaGiCK, According to 'Professors Wiki' is:
"The Science and Art of causing Change to occur
in conformity with Will", including "mundane" acts of will as well as ritual magic."

And Indeed, Crowley Described BLacK MagicK in Terms of Nefarious Change As Well
As White MagicK Used in More Positive Change; Not Unlike the Scientific Assessed Real

Process of the Placebo Effect That comes With Symbols Or Ideologies That Bring Intense
Emotional Belief, Hope, And Faith That Do Result in Changes As Large As Bringing

Incurable Disease
into the Files Still of

Unexplained Remission
And Great Health Again;

As Once Again, 'Class', i Used
This Real Science Assessed Power

of Belief in Ideologies And Symbols
In My Own Solo Effort To Erase the Pain and
Numb of A Synergy of 19 Medical Disorders,
including the Worst Pain Known to Humankind,
Type Two Trigeminal that No Drug Would Touch From
Wake to Sleep for 66 Months; Yes, Class Literally Assessed
As Worse Than the Real Torture of Crucifixion; Some Mighty

Powerful White MaGiCK, i Personally Created to Heal all that
Pain and Numb Melting Away on a Beach on 7.19.2013, 8 Years
Ago Since then Spending an Autotelic Flow of Free Verse Public Dancing
And Singing Meditatively in Contemplative Way For 15,222 Miles Now
in 96 Months, Along With 9.6 MiLLioN Words Free Verse Poetry in the

Longest EPiC Long Form Poem in the History of Humankind, Fully
Documented And Illustrated, Again with Over 100,000 Photos, including
Ecstatic Joyful Beautiful Smiles in Over 2000 Selfies of Little Old me Approaching
my 6th Decade of Life in An All Volunteer Effort to Join in On all the Fun of Heaven on Earth For Real...

As True, Happily Married, i Never Asked one Young Woman to Dance With me; and True the Selfies are
Only A fraction of Tens of Thousands of Dances with the Most Lovely Women in the Metro Area over a
Span of 6 Years, Before Covid-19 Shut Down my Personal Craft of MaGiCK on March 20, 2020, There,

Just Less than 3 Months Before i Turned

60 As the Pictures of 2 Lovely Ladies
on my Arm that Night of Their Own

Volition Do Portray so Happy

In Ecstatic Joy of Heaven on Earth;

True, Some Young Women Have Dedicated

Entire Poems to the Beautiful Soul They Say
They admire i have Become Through This Craft

Through This MaGiCK of Love i Do Spread Around the
Entire Globe Now; Yet True, These Are Just Words; Somedays

One Photo Collage, And A Gif of Just one of those 298 Metro Dance Hall, Dance Nights,

With those Women Do Show, What A White MaGiCK Dancing Craft of Loving Life Will

Bring to the World Around You In Autotelic Meditative Flow in Dance And Song For Real....

THE RESULTS ARE REAL

AND IRREFUTABLE; IS

THERE A LARGER

AWARD IN LIFE THAN

Beautiful Women Honey Bees

Swarming Around the Flower of

An Old Dude in A Dance Hall These

Days; Well True, if You Don't Worship Women

As the Most Beautiful God Flowers THere are

in Existence Now; You Just Don't Do And See MaGicK The Way i Actually 'JUST DO IT' FOR REAL...

MaGicK Works No Different than the Placebo And Nocebo Effect in White And BLacK MaGiCK Ways...

It's Just that

The Potential

Of Just How Far

MaGiCK Will Go Hasn't

Really Been Studied That Much Before...

Yet Again, Truly A Smallest Mustard Seed

Will Indeed, Grow to A Largest Tree Just by

the Force of Nature for Real Still Now

As Metaphor

Most Folks

Are Still

Breathing

As Mustard Seeds...

And if Dear Old Mr. Crowley

Had Put Love on Top of Will, He Might

Have Been "Captain Salt," on the Album Cover

of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", instead


of "Sgt Pepper," So Lonely in the Back Row With Such a Little Soul...

Meanwhile, "Captain Salt" Is Still Absorbing the Souls of Artists and
Scientists Still Rising As Stone Bust in the Front of the Funeral Ground
Ceremony With "Lakshmi" As Always A Real Leader of A Band Now Musing Ways Ahead...

Hey, Lots of Folks Change a Little Wafer into a Sugar Pill of A 2000 Year Old Dead Dude
As Placebo Effect Still Today in White MaGiCK Ways in Catholic And Other Churches...

The Album Cover

of "Sgt. Pepper's

Lonely Hearts Club

Band" Is Practically New
From 1967 Among the Highest

Selling Albums Ever Then By The

Beatles; Producing Inane, Nonsense Lyrics

Like "Yellow Submarine" and "The Walrus",

Were MaGiCK Enough in Symbols That Didn't

Make any 'Logical' Sense at All for The Greatest
Selling Albums of All Days Then of Human So Far at Least...

Again, It's the Feelings, The Senses That Bring the "MaGiCK"

Most; Whether Trump Or DeSataNis Voodoo Nocebo EffectS in BLacK MaGiCK

Ways of Influencing Wills of others that Harm or Governor Cuomo Same in Democratic Ways;

Just A Black MaGiCK Craft Artist of Sexual Abuse Against Women For Personal Selfish Gain too With

"BLacK MaGiCK Powers"

In the
DarK in

Cess
Pool

Pits

Real Hells

of Humanity Still WiTHiN;

And It's True, A Young Woman
Kissed me in the Gif Below; Yet
i Surely Did Not Ask for it; Nor Any
Dance Again, i Ever Received; All i Did

Is Make Myself A Hunk of Burning Love on Legs...

More Specifically, The Essence of White MaGiCK;
Positive Emotions And Senses on Wheels of Legs...

THAT THE SURROUNDING

AUDIENCE FELT

DEEPLY

AND

NATURALLY GRAVITATED

TOWARD LIKE PLANETS NATURALLY

ORBITING AROUND STARS AS ABOVE SO BELOW....

YES, I ACTUALLY DO WHITE MAGICK EVERYDAY

And i am no

"Sgt. Pepper"

And That's For Damned Sure Now..
As True, i've Visited that Place of
The "Lonely HeaRTS Club Band" too

Honestly,

You Don't

Really Wanna Go to Real Hell;

The Place of BLacK MaGiCK Now...

White MaGiCK Is Where it's At; Over

2000 Ecstatic SMiLes of Joy in Sublime
Beauty of the Feminine Form Is Worth Way

More In Evidence than 9.6 MiLLioN Words;

Unless You Are into Flesh Changing into Organic Loving Words...

And As Far As Trump Goes, Don't Be Afraid of the DarK, We White
MaGiCK Magicians, Truly Proficient, Are Neither Afraid of the BLacK MaGicK
DarK or Cynical of the White MaGiC LiGHT For We Understand There is Equal Muse

For Living Joy

of Life, Overall,

Ecstatically In Autotelic Meditative Flow Now to Be

Mused From Inhabitants of Hell and Heaven on EartH...

Folks Like Trump And The Others; Just Make 'Me too' Movements
Possible to Erase the "Old Boy's Clubs" of Cuomo's And Gaetz's in the United States...

And Florida Men Using the Most Disgusting BLacK MaGIC IGNoRaNCE to Kill Innocent
Other Ignorant Folks Dead in A Deadly Pandemic That May Indeed Evolve into a "Real Doomsday

Pandemic" Next

For those

Who Fall

Minion to

Despicable
BLacK MaGiCK Leaders Still then....

Indeed, A Horrible BLacK MaGiCK Prophecy that may Sadly come Next... Yet Otherwise in Flow

As Above So Below Within Inside Outside And God Yes All Around Now Center Point Balance

In Metaphor of Chi, Tao, And 'The Force'; Some Will Rise, Some Will Fall; Night Brings Day,
Dark Brings Light, Tides Go Out

And Return

Again;

Waves
Fall Now

And Rise Again;

It is what Is; Nature/
God, Whatever The WTF
Ya Wanna CaLL iT; It's the 'Real Thing'

Now; New Coke or Old Coke; Old Testaments
or New; It is what it is.. it just is... NeW It Is JusT NoW

As Some Women FRiEnDS Have Sung, "Enchanting, Entrancing, Mesmerizing Almost Impossible to Resist..."

And Some of The Dudes, "LMAO", "So Verbose And Disjointed"; While The Women Smile in Ecstasy

For Either

The Dance

And Song

The Butterfly

And Honeybee

of me Naturally

Pollinates Souls of FLoWeRS oN EartH...

All of This Documented And Linked Of Course By Evidence Per Any Request...

True Though, A Picture And A Gif Should Suffice For The Stellar Success That

White MaGiCK Actually Brings...

Unless You are LooKinG

For Something More

Trump And DeSaTaNiS

Or Gaetz Nefarious in Ways

of 'Florida Men' Ilk, YucK";

None of that BLaCK MaGicK iN
The Multi-Media Below As Pure
As Butterflies and Honeybees STiLL NoW
Spring iN WHiTE MaGiCK Deeds of Please...

In Other World News, It'S A Dark And Stormy Night in Day-Tide of Florida...

Shape oF A STate Like A Revolver; Just Loaded Spirally Free Dancing Still Now And
Singing RaMPaGE Sprees in the Tip of the Panhandle Barrel Totally Safe Protected
by TRuMP/DeSaTaNiS Minions With Ammo And Guns ALL Around my Neighborhood Block...

In Short:
'Life is Good'

In Heaven Now;

Create Your Own Will of Heaven Within
You Love too; If You So Wilt, With Love on Top of Will True;

Meh, i Still See Florida As Rose More Than Gun; Views Do Vary (Nature And Nurture)
Still by Vehicle And Vessel; Make and Model, oF Older And Newer HuWoMaN AuToMoBileS NoW...

Image

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05 Aug 2021, 11:39 am

Fnord wrote:
The default interpretation of all statements on this website is "literal" unless otherwise explicitly noted.
... except for posts like the previous one.

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05 Aug 2021, 1:04 pm

Fnord wrote:
Fnord wrote:
The default interpretation of all statements on this website is "literal" unless otherwise explicitly noted.
... except for posts like the previous one.

:roll:





Just Gaze at the Pretty Pictures, FRiEnD;

Just Gaze at The Pretty Pictures, FRiEnD;

That Just Truly Should

Be Enough

At Least,

to Literally

Understand

What MagicK Truly BRinGS...

And Roll Your Eyes Still if You 'Like',
While i Spend Eternity in Heaven Within Now

Just like

THiS HeHE...
Again, You Will
Never Be Able to
Understand And Do
MaGiCK Within The Realm
of Metaphor of 'Left Brain
Think PriSon', my FRiEnD...

Just Way More Than Twice As
Much Human Intelligence And
Potentials MaGiCK BRings For Real...

Yet True, Seemingly Not Within the
Purview of Some Folks Even In ANY
Effort Now And That's Okay...Dream
Fruition Seems to Be Only For Those
Who Choose Will Well Under LoVE NoW...



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05 Aug 2021, 1:36 pm

aghogday wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Fnord wrote:
The default interpretation of all statements on this website is "literal" unless otherwise explicitly noted.
... except for posts like the previous one.

:roll:





Just Gaze at the Pretty Pictures, FRiEnD;

Just Gaze at The Pretty Pictures, FRiEnD;

...




but not this one!


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05 Aug 2021, 2:42 pm

^^^



SMiLes, Will Under LoVE NoW...

Other than that in the "Chaos

Magic" of Human iMaGiNaTioN
And Creativity BRinGinG Arts and

Sciences to Fruition There Are 'Absolutely'

No Limits As the Only Constant Is Change...

in Other Words,

Just Be

Cause

iT Ain'T Happened

In the Past Doesn't

Necessarily Mean iT Ain't
Gonna Happen Now And This
Is How i Create All My Dreams in Fruition

Eternally Now Feather in The Wind Spirit
Becomes Fruition of All Dreams Now And True

What Process Makes This Really Come To Fruition Within
Is Faith, Hope, Belief, Love Beyond All Logic and Human ReaSon Now...

'Bout All THeRE

Is Left to Do

Is Realize

That Art Trumps
Reason And Chaos MaGiC
Is No Limits of HuMaN PoTeNTiaL Now...

Oh Yeah, And Don't Forget to Just Do IT Ecstatically
Eternally NoW in Contemplative Autotelic Meditative Flow..:)



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05 Aug 2021, 3:15 pm

One of the things that ends up being really boring about threads like this is that magick doesn't actually get discussed.

If anyone wants to talk pathworking, kabbalistic grade work of various mystic/magical orders, meditation techniques, Tree of Life and Qliphoth, etc. that might be interesting but we'd probably have to do it by PM as being on-topic in this case would actually be out of sync with the thread.


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One of the things that ends up being really boring about threads like this is that magick doesn't actually get discussed...
Well, I have requested demonstrations and/or "How-To" instructions before, and nothing has come of it.  Instead, the so-called "experts" only talk about what they can (allegedly) do with their magick, but not how the go about (allegedly) doing it.

It's like asking for directions to the Grand Canyon, and only being given a lecture on what I will see when I get there.


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05 Aug 2021, 4:44 pm

Straight-jacketing the definition a bit.


https://www.thefreedictionary.com/magick
https://www.yourdictionary.com/magick
https://www.wordnik.com/words/magick

Quote:
In Wicca and certain other belief systems, action or effort undertaken to effect personal transformation or external change.

Throwing the commonality of this definition out there because there's a lot more content than woo-poaching.


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Sounds like a personal problem. [...]
I do not have a personal problem; I have a problem with pretentious people.


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05 Aug 2021, 4:56 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
One of the things that ends up being really boring about threads like this is that magick doesn't actually get discussed.

If anyone wants to talk pathworking, kabbalistic grade work of various mystic/magical orders, meditation techniques, Tree of Life and Qliphoth, etc. that might be interesting but we'd probably have to do it by PM as being on-topic in this case would actually be out of sync with the thread.





Ahem, A Free Dance or Write Now FOR REAL of

Meditation in Autotelic Contemplative Flow

Is Surely A Way to 'A Great Work of Life';

'Snobbery' of Specific Rules NOT NEEDED;

'Will Under Love' Is All That's Needed At Core

IN CHAOS MAGIC FOR REAL;

Or Do We Need to

Measure the

Results of

MaGiCK iN my Life Again...
i Don't See Anything of Good

That Came Out of Aleister Crowley's
Life For Him and His 'Friends' at Least

Or Would You Like to Provide Some
Empirical Results to Illustrate Differently?

True, the Dude Wrote Some

Magnificent Poetry; Yet

He Was in the Throes

of A Miserable

Addiction of

Life All The Way Through...

If We Can't Do it All On Our

Own Without 'Additives'; We Are NOT REALLY Doing Much...

Again, There Are Old Poor Black Grandmothers in Slums
Living More MaGiCK

Than Him...

A SMiLE

That's

Even

Possible

Might
Be A
Start
With

Will Under Love...

Other Than That...

It's A 'Cold Inhuman Machine'...

Or Just Another Member of a
'Lonely Heart's Club Band', 'ON Drugs'...



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05 Aug 2021, 4:57 pm

Fnord wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Sounds like a personal problem. [...]
I do not have a personal problem; I have a problem with pretentious people.

If someone decides to start a thread about cats, and someone jumps in and sets a ground rule on the thread (other than the OP) that only Calicos are cats, I'm not 100% sure what the best terminology is for describing that sort of person or behavior. Words like 'useful' or 'helpful', at a minimum, don't come to mind.


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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Straight-jacketing the definition a bit.


https://www.thefreedictionary.com/magick
https://www.yourdictionary.com/magick
https://www.wordnik.com/words/magick
Quote:
In Wicca and certain other belief systems, action or effort undertaken to effect personal transformation or external change.

Throwing the commonality of this definition out there because there's a lot more content than woo-poaching.


Yes, Exactly This..:)


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