Fox News Anti-CRT psych op

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If as CRT asserts, all of societies' structures and institutions are built (consciously or un-conciously) around white persons predilections and biases, Would not CRT also be built upon the bias of it's creators?
To point: Upon what objective standard is CRT built?

This kind of leads to another question: why the hell would people watch Fox "News" in the first place let alone take them seriously...

Social science has been investigating drivers in societies and cultures. Race presents a real variable in outcomes. In the US, race will bias those outcomes and is measurable. There is a clear stratification with white being on top. So, CRT is supported by data.

The reason I brought that up - people are able to crap in the epistemic pool and get away with it primarily because our information commons are a mess. There are a lot of people actively trying to fix that.

There is no equivalency the threats are different. I said one sides threat is probably more then the other. The rights threat is more lethal, the left is more through gaining control of institutions, academia, and language usage. You like CRT, I view it as a threat. Why should I care which thing I view as an existential threat is worse when both are a big time problem to me. Most people by definition are not on the extreme. As far moderates there is no such thing of any consequence at the moment. Too much enabling, excusing, denial all over the place because the other side IS an existential threat.

As far as the right I am the OP of this thread and the Conservative Cancel culture one so it is not as if I ignore the right.

As far as that orbit thing as far as I am concerned let them waste as much time and energy on it as possible.

My scenario goes well beyond awareness to overcorrection.

So in countries where the majority is non-white would we not see the inverse? With the stratification of the non-white on top and whites being relegated to the lower tiers of society?

Does anyone know where to look for an online CRT course? I would be interested in getting firsthand experience on this subject.

But is your fear rational? From my point of view, you are simply stating a culture war talking point. Someone asked if any of us have actually had experience with CRT. I have through my policy work. What you are imagining is simply not true, but right-wing talking points.

So why are we not talking about the real threats instead of inventing a political boogie man? You don't think racism is a threat? You don't think is is systemic? Well, the data shows otherwise. You can try to deflect by misrepresenting CRT: CRT is not the issue. Until you can accept that racism is real and systemic, we are just locked into a war of words. CRT is not the problem, it is just an excuse.

We have so many existential threats facing our society, yet you are still making the mistake that it is about sides. It is not. What is the issue and what evidence-based solutions do we have to address those issues? Those solutions are not going to fit nicely into your ideology. The only reason I am not threatened by CRT is that it is support by evidence. And like any social science theory, it will only stand on supporting evidence. Reality really does not care what you think or whether it is conservative or liberal.

And that is the fundamental problem: it is just ideology. I am not against capitalism. But it only has a narrow sphere in which it works. The ideology that it is an all encompassing system is simply not supported by evidence. Nor is it the endpoint to a functioning society. We have a serious racial problem. Your solution seem to be to ignore it or only define it in terms that are comfortable for you. But what if that won't work? For heavens sake, we are still fighting the Civil War 150 years since it ended. Could it be we need to rethink the issue to find a solution?

Specifically, which country? South Africa during apartheid had the white minority population at the top of society. It is not about the proportion of the population, but the distribution of power and those that create and enforce those systems. In an equitable system, outcomes would not change based on a particular variable like race.

didnt you see the crazy lady in the other thread?

the same education that leads to people taking Ted Turner and A Cooper seriously

Any country where the majority is non-white. Are there countries where the power dynamic is inverse?
I find it hard to believe that white people occupy the top of society wherever they happen to find themselves. If they do; then Why?

The same media that participated in the Covid Cover up is also telling us that it is racist to be against CRT.

I have no way of knowing the intent of the originators but assuming good intent sometimes the road in hell is paved with good intentions. White Privilege looks at a real problem backwards. The problem is if you are in a majority you have a much better chance of being at a disadvantage then if you are a member of the majority. There is nothing
inherent to the white race about this. What is defined as white privilege is often a matter of being treated as one should be. Discrimination is the issue.

As far as whiteness goes I see nothing inherently worthwhile in a concept that defines a bunch of negative traits to a race.l

A bit off topic, CRT is a repeat of a mistake made a half century ago. The idea behind fair housing laws was to end discrimination and thus by actual interaction with black people negative stereotypes would ease. Busing was designed to get that familiarity process started at an impressionable age. Fair housing laws were not and have never been enforced in more than a cursory manner. They did try busing but gave up after a few years in the face of violent resistance. It did prove the north was as if not more racist then the south but that was about it. That result was predictable, when you try and work around parents the “momma bear” effect comes into play and all reason goes out the window, pure instinct takes over. Which is what is happening now with CRT.

Enforcing fair housing law means hiring a lot of testers. The black tester asks for an all black neighborhood and gets sold a house. White tester asks for a house in the same neighborhood and gets told there are a lot of gangs in the area, bingo real estate company fined. Same deal if house sold to white testers after telling the black tester the property has been sold. The testers of course offer the same amount of money. Same thing with individual homeowners. For each violation, the fines go up.

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I am going by of mainly the research of Christopher Rufo a magna cum laude graduate of Georgetown University and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute about how this is being carried out in practice. Now I hope I am a sheepie being duped and CRT is a great thing because while it would a blow to my ego and reputation it would be good for the country. If he is running a scam or a psych op it will be revealed in time. The media and activists that support CRT have to be trying hard as hell to find something on the guy. It has to be more than one or two gotcha type mistakes, or he said so and so back then.

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