Covid hits nursing home. 52 of 55 infected were vaccinated

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98% were vaccinated. That leaves 2% unvaccinated.
2% of 121 residents is 0.02*121=2.42. Obviously, it was some rounding error, so let's assume 3.
There were 3 unvaccinated persons in the nursing home.
Of the 55 persons who tested positive, 52 were vaccinated. That leaves 3 unvaccinated people testing positive.

That means 100% of the unvaccinated residents tested positive, against 44% of the vaccinated residents (52/(121-3)=0.44).

Nursing home residents are old and often have severe health problems, which makes them more likely to die from covid even despite vaccinations.

Oh trust magz to do the math. I sure didn't want to!

Some of the vaccines prevent even testing positive, but others merely guarantee a much milder course. This is like the flu shots I take every fall. They aren't guaranteed to prevent that year's strains, because they are merely an educated guess, but they can reduce the severity of illness.

OK I thought I better check on the media source cited in the OP.

Wikipedia: "LifeSiteNews is a Canadian far-right anti-abortion advocacy and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021 was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation."

Is it the same site that compared deaths from all causes of vaccinated people to covid deaths of unvaccinated people? I did the Math for an article like that (it turned out the chance of death of vaccinated people was exactly equal to their chance of death before the pandemics, so after doing the math, it showed vaccines work ) and I remember then checking the source and finding a comment exactly like what you posted.

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Mags. You have missed something major here in regards to your calculations which are of quite a major importance.

You are correct in working out that the unvaccinated had caught the virus so if you said that you are more likely to get covid if you have not been vaccinated, if the conditions in the carehome were the same from room to room so that the enviromental factors and those visiting nurses and visitors are all accounted for so everyone who caught the virus was on an equal footing with everyone else, then yes, the figures do look that way...
BUT there is a major ommission in your calculations that is of greater significence to the subject then you may have seen.

Of those who were vaccinated and caught the virus which is 52 people, 12 have died.

Of the 3 people who caught the virus (The only 3 that were not vaccinated), all of them are still alive.

This means that those who catch covid after they have been vaccinated are nearly 20% more likely to die then the unvaccinated. This is a major concern in regards of the vaccinations because what this actually says that the ones who have been vaccinated have weaker immune systems after vaccination to be able to cope when they find a new strain of the virus then the ones who have not been vaccinated?


I am not saying not to have the vaccine or to have it, but what I will say is to make sure that you are feeling good and healthy before you have it. (One can always delay it if not and have it again when one feels right to take it).

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Likely because the older and sicker the person is, the earlier and more eagerly they gets their shots - so those unvaccinated were most likely the healthiest ones.
People in nursing homes have generally great chance of dying for any reason. People end up in nursing homes when they're very old and/or ill.

True.

They were puzzled why so many died here in nursing homes when the first wave of the virus hit, but it is rather obvious if one thinks about it.
1. The majority of nursing homes have air conditioning which re-circulates the air.
2. The patients are already not the healthiest.
3. The nurses here due to cut backs were employed in sevrral nursing homes and had to travel from home to home along with visiting other private residence and to and from the hospitals that were treating covid patients (To get medical supplies) as part of their duties. They were unwittingly key components in the spread of the virus and no one mentions this, so it carries on until someone in a high place mentions it and the practice is re-evaluated.
4. Due to modern regulations the homes have cavity wall insulation fitted or cladding and very good heating systems which create a warm or hot and slightly damp draft free enviroment in which viruses can quickly spread like wildfire. My Dad used to say (As he being a trained carpenter and often worked with brikkies, electricians and others in the trade) never ever fill in the cavities as they are designed to use air to insulate and the air gap is also used to prevent condensation.
He also used to state how modern brick homes need to have ventilators to prevent the air going stale on the inside.

This is confusing.

That's the goal of disinformation networks, they want people to be confused and uncertain what to trust.

“The Vaccines Kill Two People for Every Three Lives They Save”, Says Peer-Reviewed Vaccine Study"

A review of efficacy and safety data for the COVID-19 vaccines by three scientists has been published in the peer-reviewed journal Vaccines and comes to the disturbing conclusion that for every three deaths the vaccines prevent, two people die from an adverse reaction, while another four suffer serious side effects. The authors conclude: “This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.”

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/htm

^Again, they interpret all reported post-vaccine deaths as vaccine-related deaths.
"Peer review" of this journal is laughable - one chemist and two anonymous people of unknown credentials as "peer reviewers" for a virology-epidemology article?
Sorry but it's just a tool for misinformation.

150-200 positive COVID tests a day in NYC now.

5000-6000 positive COVID tests a day in NYC in January.

450 hospitalizations now

9,000 hospitalizations in January

January: virtually no one vaccinated.

Now: 72% have had at least one shot.

Because reviewing is a reciprocal process, meant to be a safeguarding space for valid scientific input, anonymous reviewing is the standard default option.

Another anti-vaccine thread ... why do the mods allow this?

Still, accepting a chemist as a reveiwer in Vaccines? It's unserious.

That translates to: "the reported deaths were real deaths" but it does not translate to "causation was established".
The only deaths with established causation were the AZ 1/million blood clots deaths. The rest are raw data from reporting systems.