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05 Jul 2021, 3:16 pm

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-m ... -7278796d9

US say that democratic socialism is the same as terrorism.

f**k the U.S!



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05 Jul 2021, 3:29 pm

America has been brainwashed into hysteria over this bogeyman called socialism



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05 Jul 2021, 5:16 pm

this is incredibly funny. if you join the navy - or army - you get told what to do, refusing to follow orders will get you punishment, and you take part in the killing of innocent people. therefore you get fed and receive housing and some money. sounds like the soviet union to me.


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05 Jul 2021, 5:19 pm

OooOOOOOOOOh.
under section 1021 of the NDAA, terrorists caught on US soil can be held indefinitely without right to a trial and are equal to POWs, only POWs are to be released when the war is over, but with terrorism, there is no war that needs to end.
yeah. s**t, the US is preparing for full on corporate fascism.


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05 Jul 2021, 7:44 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
America has been brainwashed into hysteria over this bogeyman called socialism
Apparently, you have not visited California -- at least, not recently.


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05 Jul 2021, 7:50 pm

shlaifu wrote:
[...] If you join the navy - or army - you get told what to do, refusing to follow orders will get you punishment, and you take part in the killing of innocent people. Therefore you get fed and receive housing and some money. Sounds like the soviet union to me.
This is the way of all military organizations since the first king ordered the first conscription, so do not blame the Soviet Union.

"WARFARE IS AS OLD AS CIVILIZATION ITSELF.  In fact, experts believe that the first armed conflicts were fought more than 10,000 years ago by prehistoric city-states in present day Syria, Jordan, and Iraq.  These early contests were likely waged over resources, goods or land.  Yet, since such events predate the advent of writing by some 7,000 years, we have scant knowledge of these first fights, save for what archaeologists have been able to glean from the smallest fragments of information..."
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05 Jul 2021, 8:20 pm

Nice! Now we can finally put the screws to those damn NATO countries that let terrorist parties into their parliaments!
Don't put democratic socialists in power, Europeans! The american right might decide you need a healthy dose of regime change.


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05 Jul 2021, 8:31 pm

The Navy MMAs have got it right. Anarchists, socialists and neo-Nazis are essentially political terrorists. We have plenty in DC right now.



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05 Jul 2021, 8:34 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
America has been brainwashed into hysteria over this bogeyman called socialism

Check out those US cities run by "Democratic/Socialists" they're real Utopias. LOL!



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06 Jul 2021, 9:12 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
The Navy MMAs have got it right. Anarchists, socialists and neo-Nazis are essentially political terrorists. We have plenty in DC right now.


You forgot to mention Republicans and Conservatives, as being even worse political terrorists.
They are more than political terrorists btw. They are real terrorists, as they've attacked the Capitol and were prepared to kill innocents:

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06 Jul 2021, 10:25 am

BLM and Antifa which are both Marxist organizations are both also home grown terrorists. So, yeah the USN got this one right.



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06 Jul 2021, 10:26 am

1. Socialists want to take away freedoms (e.g., Sanders wants to eliminate private health insurance).

2. Soldiers are celebrated for fighting and dying, so Americans can have individual freedoms.

3. So, Socialism is a great enemy.

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06 Jul 2021, 10:33 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
1. Socialists want to take away freedoms (e.g., Sanders wants to eliminate private health insurance).

2. Soldiers are celebrated for fighting and dying, so Americans can have individual freedoms.

3. So, Socialism is a great enemy.

Proud to be an America -- where I am free -- proud of those who died to give me that freedom


You Americans talk so much about your "freedom". Does that freedom include being free to have life without being bound to an employer (if you're a worker) or not to be bound by the consumers (if you're the employer)?

I mean, for me true liberty is actual de-facto freedom, the freedom to choose not to work, if you don't want to, yet still enjoy the benefits of having a life, a roof over your head, clean water, electricity and other necessities of life.

As long as you don't have that liberty, you're not free.

Some have that freedom, but they've come to alot of money without the need to work. I want to extend that that freedom to EVERY citizen, EVERY human being on the entire planet!

Also, you Americans still have conscription (you still have to register in case of the government deciding to enforce conscription). That means you have the potential for work-duty.

There are many forms of socialism, and I advocate democratic or liberal socialism. That's socialism without conscription, without coercion and without work duty of any sort. You're also free to express your opinions and you're free to have a private health insurance, if you don't think the public health insurance is enough for you.

You're also free to own your own company, hire workers and earn profit, so long as you pay your taxes. Taxation is the only duty in my socialist utopia. And if you don't want to pay taxes, you can rely on your UBI (Unconditional Basic Income), it's just that you might feel it's not enough money for what you want, but you can still live a good and healthy life without the need to comply with all sorts of duties.

Soviet-socialism (Communism) is a bad thing. I'm not advocating this, because soviet-communist states, like China, Cuba, North Korea etc. all have conscription and work duty enforced by law.

That's not freedom.

Social-Democracy (NOT the same as democratic socialism) is as bad as Communism.



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06 Jul 2021, 10:51 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
BLM and Antifa which are both Marxist organizations are both also home grown terrorists. So, yeah the USN got this one right.


You never replied to the fact that Conservatives were attacking the Capitol.
How does this not make Conservatives terrorists as well?



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06 Jul 2021, 11:04 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
1. Socialists want to take away freedoms (e.g., Sanders wants to eliminate private health insurance).

2. Soldiers are celebrated for fighting and dying, so Americans can have individual freedoms.

3. So, Socialism is a great enemy.

Proud to be an America -- where I am free -- proud of those who died to give me that freedom


You Americans talk so much about your "freedom". Does that freedom include being free to have life without being bound to an employer (if you're a worker) or not to be bound by the consumers (if you're the employer)?

I mean, for me true liberty is actual de-facto freedom, the freedom to choose not to work, if you don't want to, yet still enjoy the benefits of having a life, a roof over your head, clean water, electricity and other necessities of life.

As long as you don't have that liberty, you're not free.

Some have that freedom, but they've come to alot of money without the need to work. I want to extend that that freedom to EVERY citizen, EVERY human being on the entire planet!

You're describing a comfy cage that provides life's necessities, and calling it freedom.

Freedom is about being free from that cage.

Americans can quit their jobs, cancel their health care insurance, whatever, because they have freedom.

I wonder if a UK or Canadian citizen have freedom like Americans to decline health insurance? To decline all the rules and obligations that come with it?


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