Gas prices as a political talking point in the USA

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11 Jul 2021, 11:17 pm

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Gas averages about $4.30 a gallon in California. We’re averaging about $3.15 in the US.

BC averages about C$1.60 per litre. Canada as a whole, around C$1.35.

All this is “regular” gas.

Canada’s gas is always more expensive than in the US.

Goldfish is paying a very high price. Probably premium gas.


Even regular 87 octane is 1.69 locally.

Yes, premium - like I said, 94 octane. Afaik, most motorcycles are designed to take premium fuel. Because of the price difference between 87 and 94, it costs Almost as much for gas in my motorcycle as my car. *shrug* Oh well - is what it is. VRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!! 8)


That's nuts. I think it was about $1.32 last time I filled up.


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11 Jul 2021, 11:39 pm

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But I agree. Blaming Trump, or Biden, for high gas prices is kinda like a governor of California taking credit for having fewer earthquakes than his predecessor. :lol:


Especially considering Alaska is the state with the most earthquakes.


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11 Jul 2021, 11:48 pm

People used to complain about OPEC and gas prices, there was a naughty political cartoon where a sheik is flashing the US consumer and instead of a wanky he has a gas nozzle.


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12 Jul 2021, 3:11 am

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So Canadians are paying about seven-fifty a gallon for gas?!?!?!?!?!

So what do we Americans (even Californians) have to complain about? :lol:


That’s what I said above, yes. $7.53cdn for a US gallon of 94 octane (premium).

It’s $6.39cdn for a US gallon of regular. (87)

And that was also what I said. :lol: Seems ridiculous to hear Americans complaining about half price gas. :P


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12 Jul 2021, 3:15 am

funeralxempire wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
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Gas averages about $4.30 a gallon in California. We’re averaging about $3.15 in the US.

BC averages about C$1.60 per litre. Canada as a whole, around C$1.35.

All this is “regular” gas.

Canada’s gas is always more expensive than in the US.

Goldfish is paying a very high price. Probably premium gas.


Even regular 87 octane is 1.69 locally.

Yes, premium - like I said, 94 octane. Afaik, most motorcycles are designed to take premium fuel. Because of the price difference between 87 and 94, it costs Almost as much for gas in my motorcycle as my car. *shrug* Oh well - is what it is. VRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!! 8)


That's nuts. I think it was about $1.32 last time I filled up.


It’s weird that $1.32 would be cheap. 21 years ago Aarco opened a couple stations here and started a price war. For a few days, regular 87 was down to 29.9/L. I’m paying 198.9 for the good stuff rn.


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12 Jul 2021, 5:09 pm

C$7.53 is about US$6.05. Still expensive!

There's never been a time, even when the US and Canadian Dollar had parity, when Canadians have paid less for gas than the US.

Not even when we paid $4.50 a gallon in NYC in 2008, and over $4.00 a gallon in 2011-2012.



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12 Jul 2021, 7:48 pm

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C$7.53 is about US$6.05. Still expensive!

There's never been a time, even when the US and Canadian Dollar had parity, when Canadians have paid less for gas than the US.

Not even when we paid $4.50 a gallon in NYC in 2008, and over $4.00 a gallon in 2011-2012.


Yeah, it's not cheap.. but wtf else are you going to do except pay? :?

We have horribly inadequate public transportation here. I drive/ride because it takes 40minutes to drive vs. 3-4 hours to take public transit. Public transit is only really a viable option downtown and in the very near suburbs, not out where I live. There are plenty of areas downtown where many people don't own cars, but in my neighbourhood everyone with a drivers licence has a car unless they Cannot afford it.


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12 Jul 2021, 9:17 pm

There was a time in the UK where a gallon of gas cost over $10.



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13 Jul 2021, 9:23 pm

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There's nuts here who try to blame gas prices on Trudeau too. It's especially sad when they don't drive, have nothing informing their arguments and really just want another excuse for hating the bobblehead.


Lack of supply meet abundance of demand.



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13 Jul 2021, 9:36 pm

It is partially Trump's fault and partially Biden's fault. Too much money meeting too few goods means inflation in prices which both engaged in. So artificial demand (stimulus) + natural consumer demand=disaster.



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15 Jul 2021, 1:30 am

I wonder how high the prices will go.I think a lot of it is simple supply and demand.



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15 Jul 2021, 1:33 am

Eliminating the tax incentives for the domestic oil and gas industry will really hurt the supply situation and possibly make prices go way up.Drilling for oil in the US will be shut down with no tax breaks.



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15 Jul 2021, 10:11 am

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Eliminating the tax incentives for the domestic oil and gas industry will really hurt the supply situation and possibly make prices go way up.Drilling for oil in the US will be shut down with no tax breaks.


Then they don't have a viable business model.

Why should taxpayers pay for Big Oil's Billions in profit? Same crap happens here in Canada. Oil companies make 10's of Billions of dollars in profits and yet we give them Billions in tax breaks for no good reason. So stupid.


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15 Jul 2021, 11:22 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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Eliminating the tax incentives for the domestic oil and gas industry will really hurt the supply situation and possibly make prices go way up.Drilling for oil in the US will be shut down with no tax breaks.


Then they don't have a viable business model.

Why should taxpayers pay for Big Oil's Billions in profit? Same crap happens here in Canada. Oil companies make 10's of Billions of dollars in profits and yet we give them Billions in tax breaks for no good reason. So stupid.


Why should there be taxes to begin with?



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16 Jul 2021, 1:45 am

zacb wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Eliminating the tax incentives for the domestic oil and gas industry will really hurt the supply situation and possibly make prices go way up.Drilling for oil in the US will be shut down with no tax breaks.


Then they don't have a viable business model.

Why should taxpayers pay for Big Oil's Billions in profit? Same crap happens here in Canada. Oil companies make 10's of Billions of dollars in profits and yet we give them Billions in tax breaks for no good reason. So stupid.


Why should there be taxes to begin with?

I believe taxes are essential for governments to function



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16 Jul 2021, 11:19 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
zacb wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Eliminating the tax incentives for the domestic oil and gas industry will really hurt the supply situation and possibly make prices go way up.Drilling for oil in the US will be shut down with no tax breaks.


Then they don't have a viable business model.

Why should taxpayers pay for Big Oil's Billions in profit? Same crap happens here in Canada. Oil companies make 10's of Billions of dollars in profits and yet we give them Billions in tax breaks for no good reason. So stupid.


Why should there be taxes to begin with?

I believe taxes are essential for governments to function


Yeah, this.

Roads, schools, hospitals/healthcare, police/fire/ambulance, airports, other infrastructure and government services. Etc.

Sure, there’s corruption and waste, But, we do rely on commonly provided government services for modern day society to function.


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