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13 Jul 2021, 9:58 am

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I think he had more going on than Autism, maybe psychosis.

He didn't seem psychotic.

He didn't hear voices or hallucinations.

He seems to have acted rationally based on an irrational belief.

Atheists probably accuse religious people of doing this.

It’s possible , religion can inspire people to acts of violence.
Some people with mental illness have “magical thinking”, for example someone with severe OCD might believe walking in a circle three times a day will keep them from getting sick.


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13 Jul 2021, 1:48 pm

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But he had an irrational belief.

What about people who pray to a GOD and do service for this GOD , and expect rewards for their service (go to heaven)?

The kid did the same thing.

He prayed to an abstract entity, performed service for this abstract entity, and expected to be rewarded for his service.


One definition of "sanity" is "having only the same delusions as your neighbors". Not being "Free of delusions", but having only those delusions that your culture and society deem acceptable.

Catholics, Muslims, Evangelicals, etc, have socially acceptable delusions (if they are delusions).



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13 Jul 2021, 4:35 pm

Misslizard wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I think he had more going on than Autism, maybe psychosis.

He didn't seem psychotic.

He didn't hear voices or hallucinations.

He seems to have acted rationally based on an irrational belief.

Atheists probably accuse religious people of doing this.

It’s possible , religion can inspire people to acts of violence.
Some people with mental illness have “magical thinking”, for example someone with severe OCD might believe walking in a circle three times a day will keep them from getting sick.


He was spouting far right fantasies....nothing magic about that...



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13 Jul 2021, 4:38 pm

He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


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13 Jul 2021, 5:01 pm

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He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


I thought so, too.


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13 Jul 2021, 5:03 pm

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He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


I thought so, too.

I wonder if he feels disappointed his demon didn’t pay off.


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13 Jul 2021, 6:23 pm

Misslizard wrote:
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He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


I thought so, too.

I wonder if he feels disappointed his demon didn’t pay off.


If he's sane enough, he should be feeling pretty stupid now.


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13 Jul 2021, 6:43 pm

Misslizard wrote:
He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


No I mean the far-right stuff isn't magical.

The demon is window-dressing for his base intention which was to kill young females.

He has all the hallmarks of a 4chan or 8chan subscriber + a wild imagination



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13 Jul 2021, 7:26 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


No I mean the far-right stuff isn't magical.

The demon is window-dressing for his base intention which was to kill young females.

He has all the hallmarks of a 4chan or 8chan subscriber + a wild imagination

It was a bad combo that’s for sure.


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13 Jul 2021, 7:27 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


I thought so, too.

I wonder if he feels disappointed his demon didn’t pay off.


If he's sane enough, he should be feeling pretty stupid now.

Or he’s confused why the spell didn’t work.


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13 Jul 2021, 8:13 pm

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Or he’s confused why the spell didn’t work.


back to the drawing board



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13 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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He thought if he’d kill someone for a demon he’d win the lottery.
Sounds like magical thinking to me.


No I mean the far-right stuff isn't magical.

The demon is window-dressing for his base intention which was to kill young females.

He has all the hallmarks of a 4chan or 8chan subscriber + a wild imagination


So, he's actually an incel?


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13 Jul 2021, 9:47 pm

The primary purpose of the spell was to make him more attractive to women.
His apparent predisposition for far-right ideology and his radicalisation on the "dark web" have all the familiar symptoms of an incel inspired movement.

His demon contract was a way perhaps he could justify in his mind what he wanted to do.