Well, Trump was working for the Russians all along.

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18 Jul 2021, 7:29 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
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Biscuitman wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-reportedly-show-171507834.html

I know the Trump fan club on WP will attack this mercilessly, but I'll post it anyway.


Dont think a single person will be surprised by this


Probably not. Just the same, I was right that I'd be attacked for it.


Who's attacking you? You created a header that cannot be validated. That's how discussions, or debates if you will, work. You have to back up your claims. You have failed to do so.

If credible evidence surfaces, I'd be more than happy to acknowledge it.


Just consider that to be a matter of "heroic" rhetoric on my part.


Which often blinds you to the truth.


Nah, I see perfectly that Trump is a strongman wannabe who cozied way too close to an enemy like Putin, and that his successor, Joe Biden, is a far better man and President than Trump could ever be.


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18 Jul 2021, 7:39 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-reportedly-show-171507834.html

I know the Trump fan club on WP will attack this mercilessly, but I'll post it anyway.


Dont think a single person will be surprised by this


Probably not. Just the same, I was right that I'd be attacked for it.


Who's attacking you? You created a header that cannot be validated. That's how discussions, or debates if you will, work. You have to back up your claims. You have failed to do so.

If credible evidence surfaces, I'd be more than happy to acknowledge it.


Just consider that to be a matter of "heroic" rhetoric on my part.


Which often blinds you to the truth.


Nah, I see perfectly that Trump is a strongman wannabe who cozied way too close to an enemy like Putin, and that his successor, Joe Biden, is a far better man and President than Trump could ever be.


Alright. Get back to me, though, if you have evidence of collusion between Trump and Putin.


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18 Jul 2021, 9:57 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-reportedly-show-171507834.html

I know the Trump fan club on WP will attack this mercilessly, but I'll post it anyway.


Dont think a single person will be surprised by this


Probably not. Just the same, I was right that I'd be attacked for it.


Who's attacking you? You created a header that cannot be validated. That's how discussions, or debates if you will, work. You have to back up your claims. You have failed to do so.

If credible evidence surfaces, I'd be more than happy to acknowledge it.


Just consider that to be a matter of "heroic" rhetoric on my part.


Which often blinds you to the truth.


Nah, I see perfectly that Trump is a strongman wannabe who cozied way too close to an enemy like Putin, and that his successor, Joe Biden, is a far better man and President than Trump could ever be.


Alright. Get back to me, though, if you have evidence of collusion between Trump and Putin.


You only need watch the (real) news.


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18 Jul 2021, 10:57 pm

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Seriously? I think Russian troll farms, that had divided and swayed American political opinion, are common knowledge.


https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4766980/ ... e-ads-2016

The Russian troll farm spend $4700 (forty seven hundred US dollars) on google ads. They spent $100K on facebook, only half of it before the election. That is 1/60th the amount spent by ONE superPAC (Correct the Record) benefiting the Clinton campaign, arguing with Trump and Sanders supporters online.

This is your grand misinformation campaign.

"But they were super targeted and therefore particularly effective."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russia-f ... 7e4c1a9a34

"fewer than 300 of the 3,000-plus Facebook advertisements purchased by the Russian “troll factory” targeted states that could determine the outcome of the 2016 election. Even fewer of these social media ads mentioned the election or the presidential candidates."

Have you even looked at the troll ads? They are barely literate, even less so culturally literate. It is insulting to be told I voted for Sanders only because I was trolled by Russians.

It is this supreme arrogance, condescension, and that she is the beneficiary of this propaganda, that Clinton lost to a game show host. It was Americans, not Russians, who are responsible for Trump.

And when Americans used the same strategy as the Russians, with the same budget, in a much smaller election (and therefor $100K had a greater affect), it was called an "experiment":

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/a ... ussia.html

And who is "New Knowledge", whose CEO was suspended from Facebook for spreading misinformation about that campaign? That's right, it provided the report to congress about Russian "interference" via the troll farm.

https://www.businessinsider.com/faceboo ... eo-2018-12

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/pre ... ia-tactics

Also, Trump was the opponent Clinton wanted:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... mp-214428/



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18 Jul 2021, 11:02 pm

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My point is, this was documented by Russian intelligence, itself.


No, this is from Luke Harding, who also made up the story about Manafort meeting with Assange. This time his proof is a typewritten (in 2016!) document containing Russian grammar errors, supposedly "by Russian intelligence, itself".



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18 Jul 2021, 11:54 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
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It isn't incredibly shocking given the Trumps were the ones who approached the Russians
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN19W1VW

Russian intelligence will of course deny any link they had with Trump during this time and remove any loose ends that might expose communication between them/Putin/Trumps.

I look forward to more intelligence leaks.


It says in the article there is nothing in the emails that proves illegal activity. Again, conjecture.


"Don't let the Truth get in the way of a good story narrative." 8)


All I want is the truth! Just gimme some truth!



Poor choice of singer.

The Truth is, lennon was one of the biggest hypocrites the music industry ever created. 8O

When I learnt about him, it destroyed the song "Imagine" for me.
It used to be one of my favourite songs.
These days I can't stand it. :eew:

I am not sorry for the off-topic comment.
I am True autistic.
It's my job. 8)


John Lennon was as as*hole, violent at times, and probably didn't change his underwear every day. But the music should stand on its own. The message is what's important.


No need to tell that to xi, goebbels, and stalin. 8)

And, yes, I am full as a boot on caffeine! :mrgreen:


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18 Jul 2021, 11:58 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-reportedly-show-171507834.html

I know the Trump fan club on WP will attack this mercilessly, but I'll post it anyway.


Dont think a single person will be surprised by this


Probably not. Just the same, I was right that I'd be attacked for it.


Who's attacking you? You created a header that cannot be validated. That's how discussions, or debates if you will, work. You have to back up your claims. You have failed to do so.

If credible evidence surfaces, I'd be more than happy to acknowledge it.


Just consider that to be a matter of "heroic" rhetoric on my part.


Goebbels would be proud. 8)


I engaged in a little hyperbole (Heroic rhetoric sounds so much better). Goebbels was into out right lying in order to justify hate and murder. Please, don't accuse me of that, or I'll have to accuse you of hyperbole, too.


Would you be happier if I compared you to xi? :scratch:
Now, *that* man has credibility. :!:
Just ask any Uyghur. :P :mrgreen:


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Don't tell me white lies. Gaslight me at your peril. Don't give me your bad attitude. Hypnosis, psychosis. Tomarto, tomayto. There are *4* lights. Honey badger.
If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,


"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet." Humour is not meant to be taken seriously, yet many on the left pervert its intent.
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)


I luv KFC!


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18 Jul 2021, 11:59 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-reportedly-show-171507834.html

I know the Trump fan club on WP will attack this mercilessly, but I'll post it anyway.


Dont think a single person will be surprised by this


Probably not. Just the same, I was right that I'd be attacked for it.


Who's attacking you? You created a header that cannot be validated. That's how discussions, or debates if you will, work. You have to back up your claims. You have failed to do so.

If credible evidence surfaces, I'd be more than happy to acknowledge it.


Just consider that to be a matter of "heroic" rhetoric on my part.


Which often blinds you to the truth.


Nah, I see perfectly that Trump is a strongman wannabe who cozied way too close to an enemy like Putin, and that his successor, Joe Biden, is a far better man and President than Trump could ever be.


Trump was a putin fanboy, yes. 8)


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Don't tell me white lies. Gaslight me at your peril. Don't give me your bad attitude. Hypnosis, psychosis. Tomarto, tomayto. There are *4* lights. Honey badger.
If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,


"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet." Humour is not meant to be taken seriously, yet many on the left pervert its intent.
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)


I luv KFC!


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20 Jul 2021, 12:42 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-reportedly-show-171507834.html

I know the Trump fan club on WP will attack this mercilessly, but I'll post it anyway.


Dont think a single person will be surprised by this


Probably not. Just the same, I was right that I'd be attacked for it.


Who's attacking you? You created a header that cannot be validated. That's how discussions, or debates if you will, work. You have to back up your claims. You have failed to do so.

If credible evidence surfaces, I'd be more than happy to acknowledge it.


Just consider that to be a matter of "heroic" rhetoric on my part.


Which often blinds you to the truth.


Nah, I see perfectly that Trump is a strongman wannabe who cozied way too close to an enemy like Putin, and that his successor, Joe Biden, is a far better man and President than Trump could ever be.


Alright. Get back to me, though, if you have evidence of collusion between Trump and Putin.


You only need watch the (real) news.


And what news would that be? (Sorry, I missed this post two days ago )


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