Right-wingers are responsible for the flooding in Germany
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57858829
Massive rain has caused devastating flooding in Germany and Belgium.
This is because of the right wingers, making fun of anyone who wants to do something against the climate changes.
The Right never wanted to do anything against the climate changes.
This is what happens, when you allow the Right to have free speech.
Massive rain has caused devastating flooding in Germany and Belgium. This is because of the right wingers, making fun of anyone who wants to do something against the climate changes. The Right never wanted to do anything against the climate changes. This is what happens, when you allow the Right to have free speech.
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From another flood-prone country on European Plains:
The late 20th century was exceptionally dry in the region, kind of a decades-long mild drough. This encouraged building close to riverbanks, including in places that previously were left for floods.
Germany also had a strong policy of regulating rivers during all the 20th century, putting them into well-defined canals convenient for transport.
This plus shortsighted greed of developers resulted in many people living in what should be flooding plains, while flood waves in regulated rivers are much steeper than in unregulated ones - that was the difference between Odra and Wisła in 1997.
I'm very sorry for the Germans, it looks even worse than our 1997
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Haha ok. Well thinkinginpictures you must in turn accept that the Left is responsible for all the migrant sex attacks in Germany over the last decade. They didn't want to listen regarding immigration and refugees.
This is what happens when you allow the Left to have free speech.
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I think we should tone down this kind of arguments, in favor of what are the problems we're facing and what to do to solve them.
Climate change operates in much longer timescales than one or another government, we're experiencing results of over 200 years of increasing industrial fossil fuel burning. The effects won't go away with winning a political fight, they would be here even if we wiped out the whole humanity (which I find a way worse scenario than the climate change itself).
There are various things that can be done to adapt to possible floods, cold spells, heat waves, etc. In this case - leaving uninhabited plains with willow woods to flood and avoiding building just next to the banks would make such events way less damaging.
That's how Warsaw suffered much less than Wrocław in 1997. Wisła, through all 20th century lacking funds for regulation, flooded fields and meadows, having its energy dispersed when finally reaching a big city. Odra, regulated back in its German times, hit the city with all the force at once.
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I just saw this:
The village has been built exactly where it shouldn't (old riverbed) and it's really no rocket science to predict what would happen with high water there...
I hope people learn from this.
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Unless the right-wingers blew up a dam or intentionally placed these centuries-old towns in flood zones, then no, they are not responsible for this.
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Δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν.
Those with power do what their power permits, and the weak can only acquiesce.
- Thucydides
It wasn't necessarily the right-wingers who channeled these rivers in 20th century. Everyone wanted to do it back then, to make navigation more efficient.
Typically, the centuries-old parts of the towns are on the high banks - but since 2nd part of 20th century, building in flood zones became common. My country has the same problems every now and then and it's never the Old Towns that get flooded, usually districts from 1970s or newer get underwater.
The climate prone to flooding have been here all the time but relying on artificial regulation makes it catastrophic when its capacity gets exceeded.
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Hmmmmmmmm. I don't see the connection and I appear to not be alone on this. Why is it that every single freak weather event is always the result of global warming too? They had freak weather events like this hundreds of years ago but many seem to forget that.
You know the proverb about assumptions do you?
Typically, the centuries-old parts of the towns are on the high banks - but since 2nd part of 20th century, building in flood zones became common. My country has the same problems every now and then and it's never the Old Towns that get flooded, usually districts from 1970s or newer get underwater.
Very interesting, I hadn't considered that. The Old Towns got built in more reasonable locations only for new development to spill over into flood-prone areas when the high ground got too full.
Also do you know what town is in that pic you linked? I can't seem to find it.
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Diagnoses: AS, Depression, General & Social Anxiety
I guess I just wasn't made for these times.
- Brian Wilson
Δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν.
Those with power do what their power permits, and the weak can only acquiesce.
- Thucydides
Typically, the centuries-old parts of the towns are on the high banks - but since 2nd part of 20th century, building in flood zones became common. My country has the same problems every now and then and it's never the Old Towns that get flooded, usually districts from 1970s or newer get underwater.
Very interesting, I hadn't considered that. The Old Towns got built in more reasonable locations only for new development to spill over into flood-prone areas when the high ground got too full.
Also do you know what town is in that pic you linked? I can't seem to find it.
They do the same here in the UK. It's often the result of poor maintenance of rivers and new houses being built on floodplains because floodplains are considerably cheaper to prepare for houses building.
Typically, the centuries-old parts of the towns are on the high banks - but since 2nd part of 20th century, building in flood zones became common. My country has the same problems every now and then and it's never the Old Towns that get flooded, usually districts from 1970s or newer get underwater.
Very interesting, I hadn't considered that. The Old Towns got built in more reasonable locations only for new development to spill over into flood-prone areas when the high ground got too full.
Also do you know what town is in that pic you linked? I can't seem to find it.
Altenahr.
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You know the proverb about assumptions do you?
It's not one single event. It's many. Flooding in Germany. Ice melting at the North and South poles. 50-60 degrees celcius heat wave in California/Death Valley. You see the pattern? It's all caused by the rise of global temperatures. These events just wouldn't occur with such a high frequency back in the 19th century or earlier.
It was one of these events every 100th year. This now happens EVERY DAMN YEAR!
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Typically, the centuries-old parts of the towns are on the high banks - but since 2nd part of 20th century, building in flood zones became common. My country has the same problems every now and then and it's never the Old Towns that get flooded, usually districts from 1970s or newer get underwater.
Very interesting, I hadn't considered that. The Old Towns got built in more reasonable locations only for new development to spill over into flood-prone areas when the high ground got too full.
Also do you know what town is in that pic you linked? I can't seem to find it.
They do the same here in the UK. It's often the result of poor maintenance of rivers and new houses being built on floodplains because floodplains are considerably cheaper to prepare for houses building.
I'm lucky to be living on the high bank, upriver from the Old Town. The worst that happened here was flooding of our underground garage after heavy rains some 12 years ago. Since then, the garage was modernized to account for such events. Two days ago, elevators stopped working after heavy rains leaked into the shaft. I really think we should account for heavy rainfall more, there were several floods in Poland in my personal memory.
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