nick007 wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Sleeping with a drunk person doesn't count as "sex".
It counts as rape.
It's good that you walked away.
It sounds to me like James walked her home from the pub
& based on various posts I've read by James about being at pubs, I would guess that he himself had also been drinking. When all parties having that sex were impaired due to being under the influence of alcohol &/or drugs at the times, it can be extremely difficult to prove who is the real victim & who is the real rapist. It becomes a giant confusing mess & both would likely drop the charges against each other so they themselves would not risk being held accountable for rape or sexual assault.
I don't want to play devils advocate but being under the influence of alcohol or drugs doesn't automatically make someone unable to consent. I've found myself in a situation a few years ago where a old school friend who always suffered from anxiety decided to ask me over to her house for the first sexual encounter she had in many years as I was the only one she trusted at the time. She said she needed a few drinks to calm her nerves before I popped over and she was a little tipsy at the time and I was sober but as far as I was concerned it was all above board. Her having a couple of glasses of wine to deal with her anxiety was part of the process of giving consent.
We need to remember we are apsies. We are not likely to be dating and having sex with sexually experienced social butterflies.
We're going to be dating long distance partners who might not have been able to enjoy the slow progression in a relationship others have had.
We might be dating recently divorced people who have only ever had one sexual partner in their entire lives and are nervous of meeting their second sexual partner at the ripe age of 35.
We might be dating people who are just naturally very anxious people who have pent up desires but have been to afraid to act on them for many, many years.
Regardless of the reasons, "liquid courage" might be needed in certain circumstances and there is nothing nefarious about someone saying "Sorry, It's been a while, I might need a drink first to calm down"
If you just happen upon a drunk woman you never met before in your life in the street however who is clearly drunk...........keep well away unless it's to help her home only.