Why religious circumcision?

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Don't you find it curious that it was the sexual organ they decided will be the mark of "God"? Perverts made it up.

Interesting how this would impact the population of teens in Denmark, as I understand that in many Western cultures a significant amount of young people have their first sexual experiences before the age of 18... So this change may significantly impact those first experiences, and may have many consequences for the young partners in regards to the perception of the quality of sex. Would be interesting to see how the "uncut" generation would turn out.

^ there's been uncut people in every generation

I have a suspicion the foreskin is there for good reason. Natural selection - it serves some purpose.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claims? For example I'd argue the foreskin rolled back actually blocks some sensation for the man but increases it for the woman. We're then naturally ribbed for extra pleasure.

Whatever the ins and outs of it (ha ha!) the primary thing here is, circumcision should be the choice of the individual in possession of the penis, and no body else.

It's a form of mutilation otherwise, and is now being called that when practiced on women. FGM - female genetic mutilation. In my view the same standard should apply for men. If you want to modify yourself, that's your choice, but nobody else should ever be able to insist upon it.

If it didn't serve some purpose God wouldn't have put it there.

But when it's the full generation, I wonder how it would transform the sex landscape/culture in the country. My understanding the Dutch are very casual about it...

Pretty sure it's mostly to appease the porn industry who's customer base has a preference for circumcised dicks.

Even the uncircumcised consumers?

" For anybody with a religious parental upbringing AND religious schooling, I would think it extremely difficult - and painful - for them to choose for themselves. "

For me it wasnt a quick process as i imagine it isnt for anyone who is indoctrinated as a child. I had stumbled across multiple explanations before I actually was more confident that it's the truth. But this was done across years and years. Practically my family was against religion, because we were non mainstream but we believed in god, we had more restrained cult thinking and rules, we werent allowed technology, festivities like xmas, easter, crosses were a sin which i had trouble with in school when in Religion class i started crying while the teacher took my hand and did it for me because she thought that i couldnt do it not that i was holding back, and holy man-made images, copies of the deities were a sin.

Like i said we had non optional pretty much religion until my parents talked to the people and took me off when i was older, and i was supposed to have a teacher but since our religion didnt practically exist as a spreadaround item and teachers were just my dad since he was the cult leader, that was more difficult for me to pass the classes and kids were jealous that id get max scores all the time without taking tests while they were at school learning.

Then my high school was Christian Orthodox and hat was a lot of bull and a drag, we had studied a lot of stuff because despite being languages directed, we were stuffed a lot of religion classes just like the priest classes of boys nearby, so we learned a lot of what they learn throughout high school. I dont really think i was actually complete by the time i finished high school, like a complete atheist so that didnt really bother me at the time that i remember, the religious aspects themselves, maybe being religious in name it was to be expected it would teach so much religion, i was just glad we had no maths. I liked that in some holidays instead of classes wed have church meetings and we needed to be present there, teachers would check to see if we were. It was extremely boring but someties wed go for a while and drink cocoa in restaurants or just walk outside because a church is that lame it cant keep people around for too long. Wed return when the presence was shouted, wed get messages or calls from classmates.

It was scary to give up, unsettling as I felt i was betraying god, and possibly facing damnation "if" and it took some strength and direction to find the path forward until i found that its not scary at all, and that the world doesnt end and that there are meaningful things about the world and each other. That if was very strong, I spent a long time being agnostic and just that, because denying had too many repercussions. But now I can happily say it's very comforting to be an atheist, i know religious people lament and pity us but they have no idea how insulting that is, because we see the world clear and arent limited by confusion and fears of sin or of science and advancement. We dont buy bull anymore. We only live once so we have a lot more responsibility for ourselves and the people around us and their belongings, because they wont regain anything and they wont have any afterlife. I only got more convinced of my beliefs the more i read and understood how the world works, all the religions and the typical human brain wiring which doesn't like to be alone and without guidance, which is why churches were used to deflate mass hysteria.

Very comforting was because we can be thankful and careful with the nature, a concept thats always been close to my heart, and that kindness and values only become stronger once you are free of one certain religion and at war with sinners, different beliefs and the devil. I'm pretty sure a lot of atheists actually become close to humans than when they were religious, I know i did. I know my dad was disrooted from the reality and family he had so that he couldnt take care of us and ultimately even himself. Nevertheless I still feel some responsibility that I need to do my part to help others find their path like i found mine and escape the trauma religion can inflict upon their lives, thinking, awareness and free will. My dads friend, part of his clan, believes his schizophrenia actually means hes seen angels and demons, that makes it really hard on his condition and his psychiatrist recommended him steer away from religion. It can really complicate people's lives and make them see reality distorted to great extents. I feel so free without it yet sad many are still under its manipulating claw.

Well on the other hand, if theyre concerned that they have sinned, which every christian does, then they could feel some relief to know and might be thankful, depends on the time they need to be convinced of it. If not I dont know if they would be or not a fan of having religious debates a lot of their time before their death. Some people like it, it distracts some from thinking about their demise, but some don't cause it probably is confrontational and gives them anxiety because they need to feel like theyre in a pure mood and mindset all the time, might feel rejection if someone has a different belief especially "rejecting" god, but as an atheist you can't reject god. Takes a lot of effort and time to explain and a lot of effort on their part nonetheless to comprehend cause it's just so different and it's dealing with emotions too.

In some places in the Bible they talk about the mark of God being on the hands and forehead, particularly IIRC in the future apocalyptic times. I think we've found a new way to baptize ourselves.

In Africa they cut the clitoris of the females, thinking it's a way to discourage female orgasm and masturbation but it doesn't do that and instead in increases vaginal infections because it's meant to protect. It's actually done without any anaestethic, it's horrifying. The girls just walk off with an open cut on their genitals and missing pieces.

Theres a tradition in India which makes mothers and families of kids rub cow dung [cows being seen as holy] on the freshly cut bellybutton of a newborn, a lot of babies are dying due to this because their immunity isnt at all formed, no breastfeeding at that point with colostrum that makes up their first immunity. Theyre trying to educate families and tell them about survival chances of their children but people still do this because of the religious tradition still holding power.

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Holy bukkake?

That and the holy golden showers. You can just tell it comes from above.

Uhh, did anyone else notice the rain's yellow today?

While your body might be experiencing great terror, your mind just before death will hallucinate, I take this as an opportunity to experience something intensely weird and its comforting to know that i wont die acknowledging that pain but some odd stuff imagery of some sort. Some more brutal happenings may put the mind in an euphoric state where you are missing a leg and arm but cant feel a damn thing lol.
To die slowly of old age might be the hardest, or to actually live with pain for like 10 years, now thats some s**t that makes grandmas pray to kick the bucket faster. Thats what made Jack Kevorkian put to death painful terminal disease people upon consulting them and their families, true case also movie "You don't know Jack." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian

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Let's 'Ask' the More 'Mystical', 'Common Sense Version'
Attributed to A Story of A Man identified as 'JeSuS'
As to 'Why' or Why Not 'Religious Circumcision?';
Obviously, Tradition That Also 'Naturally'
Excludes Change Will Be

Adverse

to Any

Change in Tradition;
Specifically Male Circumcision, AND
The Other Mutilation of Female Sexual
Organs in More African Countries; And Not
Traditionally Catholically Allowing Condoms For Africans Who
Would Otherwise Be Spared the Disease of AIDS And Oh Yes, There

is the Current Practice Among More Evangelistic Protestants
Against Any Thing Not Colored in their Holy Book To Provide
Vaccination Cards Against a Deadly Pandemic, Only By The Signed Authority
of Praying to The Favorite Star Quarterback of their Christian Team Jesus; Yes,

A Sugar Pill That Works for Some issues in life; Yet Pandemic Deadly
Delta Variants, Indeed Highly Unlikely And NOT Proven Helpful at All
by of Course the Very 'Authority' of Scientific Methodology They Believe

Doesn't Exist

Like Evolution

And the Such still
Attempting to Prove
ALL Creation Created in 6
Days With Time Off for Good Behavior on the 7th Day...

From the Gospel of Thomas, Part of 'Cancel CuLTuRE Then':

53) His disciples said to Him, "Is circumcision beneficial or
not?"
He said to them, "If it were beneficial, their father would
beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the
true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable."

Okay, Conclusion; Humans Don't Always Do 'Rational Stuff'; Of Course
We Wear Clothes Now; Yet Naked Exposed to Environmental Elements,
Extra Sexual Organ Protection Helps to Carry on the Family Genes As Such...

It Shouldn't Take A Rocket Scientist To Figure this Out; It Really Shouldn't, Just
Common Sense; Think (See) About the Other Animals in Nature And What Would Happen

If they Did not
Have this Protection
Naked to the Environmental Elements
Like Briar Bushes Close to Live Giving Water Bodies...

Ouch!

The More
Protection the
Better Chances

of Doing What it takes
For Progeny to Survive...

(Or to Even Happen at all)

Like Smaller Lion 'Packages'
Surviving Through All the Claws
And Jaws of Fights for Basic Survival...

Perhaps if the Real Dude Jesus Spent
40 Days With NatuRE ALone, He Just Noticed
Stuff Like This away from Human Tool Clothed CuLTuRE...

No Different really than
A Buddha Under A Tree

And All the Other

"Naked Prophets"

In Forests And Beaches

Who Returned to Nature
And Shed More of the CuLTuRAL BS...

(No Way, Anyone Survived Without Water
for 40 days in the Damned Desert Then;
Believe you me, it was hard enough to do it
Shut-in in my bedroom, 1 Hours of Shallow
Sleep Each Day for 35 Days Provided By An Alpha
Blocker Then; None at all for me, the Last
5 Days Of 40 in the 'Lent Spring' of 2008

With the Worst Pain Known to Humankind
in a Synergy of 19 Life Threatening Disorders)


There is no REAL SEPARATION OF CHURCH
AND STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AS GUESS WHAT;

POLITICS, NO MATTER IF LEGAL OR NOT FOR NON-PROFITS

IS STILL PRACTICED FROM THE PULPIT AND YOU WILL STILL FIND

CATHOLIC PRIESTS ON YOUTUBE CHANNELS FOR PROFIT

EXTENDING CONSPIRACY

THEORIES ABOUT

THE VACCINES STILL NOW;

WHY? IGNORANCE; HUMANS AT
CORE ARE JUST NOT RATIONAL;

Science Shows This; We Are Very Fortunate
to Use the Scientific Method And Base Our Laws

On More Rational Ways of Doing Life; Yet it's True,

Why Sit in Front of a Screen, the Majority of Waking Hours

Every Day; And Or Eyes Glued to A 6 inch Screen... If You Think

That is Any Less Irrational For A Human Being to Do that; Perhaps

You Are not Experiencing

Ergonomic Injuries

Yet From

Sitting Still too Long;

Or Keeping Your Arms Raised

in the Same Position Holding A 'Smart Phone';

Or Lost Already From A Majority of Human Potential

For REAL SOCIAL EMPATHIC ARTISTIC INTELLIGENCES

trapped in a More Mechanical Cognition, Co-Created Abstract

Construct of Life Spoon-Fed From Birth; If You Think 'Jesus God Religion'

And Stuff Like Circumcision is the Biggest CuLTuRaL Problem, Now,

You are only

PARTLY CORRECT;

Any 'Cave Dweller' Getting out
for the Forage of Day Could
See We Are Truly Nuts Not

Scanning the Horizon

(IN Head-on Collisions
ALL Texting And the Such
All Modernly Now True too)

Capturing

Prey and

No Longer

Seeing the Predator

That Has Become the

Machine of Us; Just an Extension

of our Tools; Yes, Mechanical Cognition Life;

Downloading Data into Data Being 'Robots' From Birth;

'Terminator', 'Avatar' And 'Matrix Movie' Series of Modern Prophecies in Fruition

True Now For Real And of course 'Minions' as Usual And Their Despicable

Demagogue Leaders;

Yet Machine

Life is

Only a Couple

of CenturieS OLD;

Yes, Bought and Sold;

Understand Who the Slave

And Master Truly is Now; Hint: You,

And of course: 'Me too'; Yet this is just
A little sacrifice i make for folks who have
A potential to see a bit more Human Potential in Life....

Been There and Done 'Terminator Machine', 'Matrix', And 'Avatar' Life;
Yet i make sure i escape every dam day, Dancing Singing Free With Others and

Become More FULLY Human again too... FOR FLESH AND BLOOD HEaRT PUMPING REaL...

i Didn't Have A Choice

Before, Functionally

Disabled; Sadly,

Humans

Volunteer

Now to Become

Functionally Disabled

the Majority of their Life now

in this New Experiment Where

We Are Both Scientist and Guinea Pig Now...

'The Ignorance' is the 'Common Religion' Now of Humankind...

At Least For

Us

'Civilized' Folks...

Everyday, i return
to the Living Call of the Wild, Just outside this
24-Inch Window Prison; And 27.1 Inch iMac Screen
And 6 Inch iPhone Screen too; Yet Paradise REAL Garden
of Eden Forest Free Just, Outside my Frigging Back Door Free

To Dance Naked
And Become
Sand

And

Sun

Fur And

Wings Free

FRiEnDS With

Gravity For Real

Inhaling Peace, Exhaling Love Free...

True, i've Collected Art to iLLuSTRaTE What This Looks Like

Too, to Return to Wild Animal Kingdom, Frigging Sanity, Naked And F in Loving Free...

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