Are sex offender laws too punitive and draconian?
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For issues like this it's often very difficult to achieve change away from draconian policies because it's much easier to scare people into a temporary coalition against 'the perverts' than it is to get people to understand that the policies they supported harm others with little benefit.
People disagree on the degree of reform and on the specifics of how to achieve it.
Sometimes discussions where no specific proposal is ever made can still benefit an issue by at least driving awareness of the other side even existing. You need to get enough people emotionally invested enough to care before you can build a coalition to advance a more specific agenda.
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At least in the USA, many states and municipalities do in fact have laws on the books that cover more instances than simply "over 18 / under 18". Typically, consensual sex between someone above 16 years of age, with someone under 21 years of age, and barring any factors of coercion or power imbalance, is legal, these days, with individuals over 21 restricted to other individuals over 18. So instances of 2 crazy kids having a night of whoopee, freely and willingly, will generally not end in handcuffs just cos one of them was 19 while the other was 17. I can understand why this wouldn't be widely publicized.
Public urination is a tricky one, cos it's not just about exposure, it's also about sanitation. Often times it's less about men waving their tallywhackers about, and more the complaint that there's piss everywhere.
The point of the conversation is to discuss whether the laws surrounding sex offenders are completely fair. We already KNOW that it wouldn't be easy to change them.
Your original position was that there's no problem with the laws. Sheesh, you really love to cover your butt.
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Same here as far as I know. Or at least, when I was still working at the local police station and feeding speed tickets to the system, there were occasionally one or two for public urinating.