Going to fast. From the male perspective.

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12 Aug 2021, 5:16 am

We all know what going to fast is from a females eyes (getting pushy for sex obviously).

Over the last week I was wondering what going to fast from the male perspective is. I've been seeing this woman and she insists on going slow. By the second date she invited her family to see me and by the 4th uploaded a picture of me and her to Facebook, tagging me in it obviously without asking causing me to explain "she was just a friend" to my family. Now on the fifth date she recommended skydiving.


Am I alone in thinking she's going to fast? Seems a little quick to me that's for sure.

What is going to fast from a guys perspective?



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12 Aug 2021, 6:50 am

I'm not a guy, so I hope you don't mind my comment, but skydiving? Do you want to go?

I can tell you about a similar stupid Facebook thing I did. I made a joke about being late for a date, I don't remember what I actually said, but it was funny. Thing is I knew it wasn't a date, but there had been a mix up and I thought of a funny thing to say about it and it was funnier if it was a date I was late for. I seek to entertain on social media.

I didn't think it would do any harm because the friend I was meeting up with and arrived late to see doesn't use social media, neither do any of our hipster friends, apart from one, but I'm not sure I was friends with her on Facebook at that point.

So me and friend hung out and he said to me as I was leaving that he didn't want to give the impression to anyone that we were "a thing" and then uninvited me from somewhere he had invited me to only an hour before. It was out of the blue, so I wonder if we did have a mutual friend on Facebook who saw my joke and texted him. Or maybe I was just very boring, I don't know.

Anyway, why make a stupid joke about a date? Well I wanted my family to think I'm normal and go on dates. I don't usually, I'm a weird aspie who no one is interested in. But my aunts were always asking, "have you met anyone yet?" I used to share photos of male friends to give the impression I was seeing people even though I wasn't. I don't care now and they've given up asking.

I wonder if this woman is keen to put on a face in front of her friends and family. Does she get much interest? When did she last go out with someone? Is she really getting too emotionally involved too soon? Or is she just showing you off?



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12 Aug 2021, 7:26 am

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I'm not a guy, so I hope you don't mind my comment, but skydiving? Do you want to go?

I can tell you about a similar stupid Facebook thing I did. I made a joke about being late for a date, I don't remember what I actually said, but it was funny. Thing is I knew it wasn't a date, but there had been a mix up and I thought of a funny thing to say about it and it was funnier if it was a date I was late for. I seek to entertain on social media.

I didn't think it would do any harm because the friend I was meeting up with and arrived late to see doesn't use social media, neither do any of our hipster friends, apart from one, but I'm not sure I was friends with her on Facebook at that point.

So me and friend hung out and he said to me as I was leaving that he didn't want to give the impression to anyone that we were "a thing" and then uninvited me from somewhere he had invited me to only an hour before. It was out of the blue, so I wonder if we did have a mutual friend on Facebook who saw my joke and texted him. Or maybe I was just very boring, I don't know.

Anyway, why make a stupid joke about a date? Well I wanted my family to think I'm normal and go on dates. I don't usually, I'm a weird aspie who no one is interested in. But my aunts were always asking, "have you met anyone yet?" I used to share photos of male friends to give the impression I was seeing people even though I wasn't. I don't care now and they've given up asking.

I wonder if this woman is keen to put on a face in front of her friends and family. Does she get much interest? When did she last go out with someone? Is she really getting too emotionally involved too soon? Or is she just showing you off?


I don't mind women commenting at all. I'm indifferent to skydiving but it's weird to ask so soon about something so oddly specific and extreme.

I always keep dates hidden from my family. I worry they'll over react with me being an aspie with a date and drive the women away. They won't over react in a bad way but possibly over react in a clingy way with them treating any potential GF like they're the only woman who can "save me". From what exactly I don't know.

She showed huge interest in me because I ticked her pretty simple boxes. They were a car and job. Superficial perhaps but at least modest and it's better than "I want a man who treats me with respect" whatever that means.

There does seem to be a weird element of parading me a bit. She wants people to know and has been telling everyone and anyone about me. Already people I never met know I'm dating her. Half the village knows so to speak.

She's a nice woman but I would prefer (and I'm sure I'm not alone on this) to be asked to jump into bed with her instead of jumping out of a plane. Something just feels weirdly back to front about it all with her. She acts like we known each other for years and are rock solid despite it being about 4 weeks.

She's not long ended it with her long term husband so might just be happy to see someone like me. She's also a single mother who doesn't work which I'm finding more and more exhausting.



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12 Aug 2021, 9:57 am

She might want someone who will support her financially.

Did she have a job before, but lost it in the Pandemic or something?



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12 Aug 2021, 10:37 am

Does she repeatedly bring up any of these topics within just a few weeks of dating?

• Pregnancy, childbirth, and how many children she wants to have.
• Weddings, receptions, and honeymoons of her friends or relatives.
• What kind of house she wants to have and how she will decorate it.
• At what age and how long her friends or relatives have been married.
• Her future children's behavior, education, health, interests, and looks.

If so, she is likely more interested in you helping her realize her own dreams than she is in you as a person.


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12 Aug 2021, 10:45 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
She might want someone who will support her financially.

Did she have a job before, but lost it in the Pandemic or something?


She's disabled but has assistance from the state. She said she wouldn't need any financial support. I asked her about it before meeting her for the first time.

The first thing I ask a suspected unemployed woman is "can you support yourself financially". Obviously I don't ask that abruptly but I make sure now before the first date.



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12 Aug 2021, 10:51 am

Fnord wrote:
Does she repeatedly bring up any of these topics within just a few weeks of dating?

• Pregnancy, childbirth, and how many children she wants to have.
• Weddings, receptions, and honeymoons of her friends or relatives.
• What kind of house she wants to have and how she will decorate it.
• At what age and how long her friends or relatives have been married.
• Her future children's behavior, education, health, interests, and looks.

If so, she is likely more interested in you helping her realize her own dreams than she is in you as a person.



She's a single mother and said she doesn't want any more kids. She has mentioned her ex often and even how they got married though.

I do get the impression that she parades me around a bit.

Luckily I gave a heads up this time that I need more action than my car. She can wait as long as she likes until she feels close enough to "do the deed" but she isn't touching my car or anything else I own first.

I'm sure as hell not repeating my past mistakes.



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12 Aug 2021, 11:14 am

You said you don't mind women's perspectives, so I'll weigh in. I hope that's OK.

I'll start by saying Hurtloam made some good points as well. Some people just overcompensate for their insecurity.

My first thoughts:

She's parading you around after a few dates?
Even though you're autistic and (presumably) don't love socialising?
She calls it "going slow" but wanted her family to meet you?

If you aren't comfortable, then it's too fast regardless of what we think.

I've been with my bf since December 2019 and I balked at going to a small, family wedding with him this summer. I didn't feel ready or comfortable. I've met one of his brothers but that's as far as my social energy extends. We've been on one date in a restaurant, because I don't like being around people. I've never been paraded anywhere because I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

As for financial security, I can appreciate you want to watch out for people becoming dependent on you. That's smart. Just realise it's the same for women because many men are insolvent, and want the women to split her assets with him if they start living together.

It goes both ways.


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12 Aug 2021, 11:58 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
You said you don't mind women's perspectives, so I'll weigh in. I hope that's OK.

I'll start by saying Hurtloam made some good points as well. Some people just overcompensate for their insecurity.

My first thoughts:

She's parading you around after a few dates?
Even though you're autistic and (presumably) don't love socialising?
She calls it "going slow" but wanted her family to meet you?

If you aren't comfortable, then it's too fast regardless of what we think.

I've been with my bf since December 2019 and I balked at going to a small, family wedding with him this summer. I didn't feel ready or comfortable. I've met one of his brothers but that's as far as my social energy extends. We've been on one date in a restaurant, because I don't like being around people. I've never been paraded anywhere because I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

As for financial security, I can appreciate you want to watch out for people becoming dependent on you. That's smart. Just realise it's the same for women because many men are insolvent, and want the women to split her assets with him if they start living together.

It goes both ways.


Yeah you make a good point. At the bare minimum she can at least let me introduce her to family and friends in my own time when I'm ready......not via tagging me in a Facebook picture for everyone to see without asking. It was annoyingly naughty and put me off seeing her recently because I don't want to explain where I'm going to family and friends who have their finger in every pie around town.

Assets are going to be a tremendous problem with women who have little money. I won't get into why but I'm a truly enormous target to a lot of women in that sense and it's got to the point where I can't hide the knowledge of said assets anymore from women I meet but I want to keep them strictly mine only even if I'm married.

My dad has explicitly warned me not to even mention them wherever possible, even to close friends.



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12 Aug 2021, 3:11 pm

Does she know that you're autistic, or that these issues are making you uncomfortable? Maybe it would help to have a good discussion about boundaries and mutual respect.

The Facebook thing is just bad manners all around, in my opinion. I haven't used FB for years except for Messenger, but I would never post a picture of someone else without their permission, and I certainly wouldn't tag them. I'd be livid if someone posted / tagged me. I'm weird about privacy and about digital media or photos, so maybe it's common behaviour these days? Regardless I don't think it's OK, and I know I wouldn't be alright with it. I don't even put a relationship status on my account, or post any pictures unless they're "Only Me" as the audience. (That's something I will occasionally do just for safe keeping, or to unload my camera).

Regarding money, I agree. I was told the same thing by my father, about being a target. I'll never live with a man again or have joint accounts and assets. Again, maybe I'm hyper-vigilant but I've learned the hard way. I don't blame you for being cautious in your situation especially when you're ... five dates in??? At that stage my bf didn't even know where I lived. It took me a couple of months to give him my address. This was during the peak of Covid so it was easy to just meet outdoors or eventually go to his place. I guess I'm super cautious and I move too slowly, probably too slowly, but like I said before if you aren't comfortable then something's not right. I hope you can talk to her, explain your reservations, and sort all of this out.


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12 Aug 2021, 4:48 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Does she know that you're autistic, or that these issues are making you uncomfortable? Maybe it would help to have a good discussion about boundaries and mutual respect.

The Facebook thing is just bad manners all around, in my opinion. I haven't used FB for years except for Messenger, but I would never post a picture of someone else without their permission, and I certainly wouldn't tag them. I'd be livid if someone posted / tagged me. I'm weird about privacy and about digital media or photos, so maybe it's common behaviour these days? Regardless I don't think it's OK, and I know I wouldn't be alright with it. I don't even put a relationship status on my account, or post any pictures unless they're "Only Me" as the audience. (That's something I will occasionally do just for safe keeping, or to unload my camera).

Regarding money, I agree. I was told the same thing by my father, about being a target. I'll never live with a man again or have joint accounts and assets. Again, maybe I'm hyper-vigilant but I've learned the hard way. I don't blame you for being cautious in your situation especially when you're ... five dates in??? At that stage my bf didn't even know where I lived. It took me a couple of months to give him my address. This was during the peak of Covid so it was easy to just meet outdoors or eventually go to his place. I guess I'm super cautious and I move too slowly, probably too slowly, but like I said before if you aren't comfortable then something's not right. I hope you can talk to her, explain your reservations, and sort all of this out.


The Facebook issue, while being very annoying I don't really hold it against her. I always let the first mistake slide irrespective of what it might be. I think she's just excited to have someone interested in her.

Pictures on Facebook without permission are common but only within reason. If you attended a party with 10 other people then yeah, you should expect to get tagged with relatively mundane pictures but on a 4th date it's a no no.

I'm likely to have a talk with her if she does something equally bothersome again. I just want things to progress at a normal pace. For the last 200.000 years chilling out at home or having some meal has been the norm when meeting women. It's only in the last few decades people have had the ability to toss themselves out of planes. It's the type of thing you do for charity, or with close friends and family........not after 30 hours of meeting someone.

Like I said I would prefer to be guided to a bed than a parachute. It seems comparatively tame and normal in comparison that's for sure!! !



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17 Aug 2021, 3:55 pm

There is stereotype that guys are afraid of commitment so I think going to fast for guys is when the woman starts planning their wedding & kids when they have not been together for very long. However I am very different from most guys in many ways & going too fast for me is when the woman is driving her car one hounded miles an hour on a residential street 8O Though it might could be fun if I was not vomiting & passing out :chin:


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17 Aug 2021, 7:41 pm

Nades wrote:
We all know what going to fast is from a females eyes (getting pushy for sex obviously).

Over the last week I was wondering what going to fast from the male perspective is. I've been seeing this woman and she insists on going slow. By the second date she invited her family to see me and by the 4th uploaded a picture of me and her to Facebook, tagging me in it obviously without asking causing me to explain "she was just a friend" to my family. Now on the fifth date she recommended skydiving.


Am I alone in thinking she's going to fast? Seems a little quick to me that's for sure.

What is going to fast from a guys perspective?

The girl i dated we met on a dating site and we talked on the phone for a while and she brought up marriage before the first date.That scared me a little and i thought it was too fast.



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The girl i dated we met on a dating site and we talked on the phone for a while and she brought up marriage before the first date.That scared me a little and i thought it was too fast.
How much did you chat before the 1st date :?: The 3 relationships I had were mostly LDR things for half a year & we never really did the whole dating thing. Dating wasn't really feasible & we met up after things got serious. We chatted alot before we started discussing marriage but we still had that discussion before we managed to meet up. You know how there are more than a few stories & songs about people going to Vegas & getting drunk & waking up married the next day, I woulda been one of em if I had that opportunity when I was single but I would NOT of been drunk or under the influence of any drugs. I was very lonely & majorly HATED being single. If I was single rite now I would be asking if you still had her contact info if you thought I'd might have any chance at all with her :wink:


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nick007 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
The girl i dated we met on a dating site and we talked on the phone for a while and she brought up marriage before the first date.That scared me a little and i thought it was too fast.
How much did you chat before the 1st date :?: The 3 relationships I had were mostly LDR things for half a year & we never really did the whole dating thing. Dating wasn't really feasible & we met up after things got serious. We chatted alot before we started discussing marriage but we still had that discussion before we managed to meet up. You know how there are more than a few stories & songs about people going to Vegas & getting drunk & waking up married the next day, I woulda been one of em if I had that opportunity when I was single but I would NOT of been drunk or under the influence of any drugs. I was very lonely & majorly HATED being single. If I was single rite now I would be asking if you still had her contact info if you thought I'd might have any chance at all with her :wink:

Well i think we chatted for about a month or so maybe before the date.Ya i dont like being single either but I just am trying to be patient and waiting for the one.



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nick007 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
The girl i dated we met on a dating site and we talked on the phone for a while and she brought up marriage before the first date.That scared me a little and i thought it was too fast.
How much did you chat before the 1st date :?: The 3 relationships I had were mostly LDR things for half a year & we never really did the whole dating thing. Dating wasn't really feasible & we met up after things got serious. We chatted alot before we started discussing marriage but we still had that discussion before we managed to meet up. You know how there are more than a few stories & songs about people going to Vegas & getting drunk & waking up married the next day, I woulda been one of em if I had that opportunity when I was single but I would NOT of been drunk or under the influence of any drugs. I was very lonely & majorly HATED being single. If I was single rite now I would be asking if you still had her contact info if you thought I'd might have any chance at all with her :wink:


We chatted very little before meeting up. It was online dating and I prefer to meet in person rather than talking online before hand. We had about 7 or 8 dates so far and it's not been the best. Her kids dominate a lot of the convo and they also dominate the house during that time. They're always running around screaming.

Tomorrow is the first proper date outside her house. She's agreed to some degree of intimacy after offering (more than kissing) and she seems pretty keen on it but is it the expensive restaurant doing the talking? I'll find out tomorrow if I have to pay for her half or not and if the intimacy was only on condition of the date.

She's still going through "vetting" at the moment and I'll know if she genuinely likes me when she asks me over the first time for sex without it being conditional on something. I don't want to get stuck in the trap of having to "pay or work for intimacy" with my supposed girlfriend again.

Edit: Sorry commented on the post but it would have been similar anyway.