Trump Brings Peace to The Middle-East?

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16 Aug 2021, 7:49 pm

Hey, kids!  Remember this?

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CONTINUED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN PEACE TALKS AS HE SIGNED A HISTORIC PEACE AGREEMENT WITH THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN, WHICH WOULD END AMERICA'S LONGEST WAR

On February 2, 2020, the Trump Administration signed a preliminary peace agreement with the Taliban that sets the stage to end America's longest war.  Under the agreement, the U.S. will withdraw nearly 5,000 troops from the country in 135 days in exchange for a Taliban agreement to not allow Afghanistan to be used for transnational terrorism.  Time Magazine reported that other components of the agreement included an agreement that U.S. counterterrorism forces stay in the country, permissions for the CIA to operate in Taliban-held areas, and details of how the Taliban's promises to reduce violence will be monitored and verified.

The deal has been called the "best chance to end this conflict," a "decisive move" towards peace, and "the best path" for the United States.

The war in Afghanistan is the longest in U.S. history, a conflict that has killed more than 3,500 U.S. and NATO troops and cost U.S. taxpayers nearly 900 billion dollars.

As part of the peace agreement, the Taliban and the Afghan government recently began historic peace, talks which would end decades of war that Afghanistan has consumed.  The negotiations will cover the terms of a "permanent ceasefire, the rights of women and minorities, and the disarmament of the country's many militia groups."


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 This Archived GOP Webpage 

HOWEVER...

In the wake of the Taliban’s recent capture of Kabul, Afghanistan's capital, it looks like the Republican Party is quietly scrubbing traces of the former president's deals with the militant Islamist group.

The GOP has pulled a webpage praising Donald Trump over his administration's "historic peace agreement with the Taliban".  The page was first instated in the midst of last year’s presidential election.


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 This Gizmodo Article 

Donald Trump got himself flim-flammed, hornswoggled, and played for a sucker by the TALIBAN!

Now the GOP is trying to cover up yet another one of Trummp's debacles ... I give the GOP and Trump's "peace agreement" 5 Laughing Heads!


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16 Aug 2021, 9:12 pm

I remember.

I can't say more without inciting a debate with other members that I'm too sad right now to have.


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17 Aug 2021, 1:19 am

Glenn Greenwald wrote:
Watching Biden officials and their partisans (neocons + liberals) try to claim this withdrawal was Trump's plan is shamelessly deceitful.

Trump did want to leave Afghanistan. But Biden spent the year boasting that it was his choice and plan. Kamala leaked that she was key to it.
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This warmongering Democratic partisan -- who wrote a book demanding everyone honor his expertise -- actually tried to blame, or at least distract everyone's attention to, **the GOP South Dakotan Governor** for what's happening in Kabul:
Tom Nichols wrote:
I deleted this because it was too short. I wanted to make the point even more directly, as I did here. A charlatan like Noem riding through a superspreader event with a flag while Kabul falls is America, 2021: Unserious, self-destructive, faux patriotic.


I do not believe a plan was possible that would have averted this horror. The US Govt lied for 2 decades about its control and progress. "Not the right time" is the mantra that always justifies endless war: we just need six more months.

But this is Biden's plan & responsibility.

During the Bush era, the blogger @Atrios coined the term for Iraq called "a Friedman Unit": to mean "we need six more months." Neocon/neoliberal warmongers like Tom Friedman kept saying: just keep people's kids there to fight for 6 more months: over and over. That's the playbook.

The reality is imperialism, in its best and least common form -- we really want to help! -- is grounded in arrogance: the idea that the US can rule and transform radically different countries with military force. It can't and should stop trying. That's the lesson we see again.

But whatever else is true, the responsibility for what the US Government and military do now is Biden's, not Trump's. When they thought it would go well, Psaki and Blinken demanded credit. So vile watching them now renounce it, with the media's help.

Withdrawal is still the right thing to do. There are horrors from the withdrawal just as from the 20-year-war. It has to end some time.

But the vacation disappearance of Biden and Psaki is the sort of sociopathic behavior that, had Trump done it, would've caused hysterics.

Finally, read this great thread where @RichardHanania
documents how military and intelligence leadership manipulated Presidents to not only stay in Afghanistan but escalate.

The biggest and worse lie of the Trump era is that the US has no Deep State:
Richard Hanania wrote:
There needs to be a thread on the Afghanistan withdrawal. People who support withdrawal but don't like how it's done have no better option, and it's this attitude that leads to forever war. They expect competence when the entire lesson of the war is the US is not competent! 1/n
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Source: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1427260258737610758

There's a difference between making a deal and carrying it out - A bad deal\agreement can be rescued by good planning and implementation, whilst a good deal\agreement can be ruined by poor planning and implementation.

In this case, the deal\agreement (get out of Afghanistan) would appear to be a good one.
The planning\implementation of the exit, as managed by Mr Biden and Ms Harris, however, is where the ultimate responsibility lies - praise is deserved for them if carried out well, condemnation towards them if carried out poorly.

As to the "pulled webpage":
Mike Reed wrote:
This is so dishonest. We launched a new website last week… some of the old posts haven’t been carried over yet. Go look… all blog/research pieces from years ago aren’t there. But good try attempting to divert attention from the folks actually in charge of this disaster.

Source: https://twitter.com/reed1311/status/1427233157385003008

Then again, Gizmodo isn't exactly unbiased:
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Analysis / Bias

In review, Gizmodo primarily reports on technology and entertainment; however, they also report on politics with a left-leaning bias in story selection. There is the use of strong loaded language in headlines: The Trump Administration Is Spinning Its Latest Pro-Coal Policy as Good for People of Color. This story is properly sourced to the EPA and Bloomberg. In another story, they denigrate the right, such as this: Trump Invites Consortium of Conservative Internet Trolls to The White House for ‘Social Media Summit.’ Editorially, Gizmodo does not separate news from opinion, which can be misleading, with most editorial positions favoring the left.

Source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gizmodo/



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17 Aug 2021, 1:26 am

Trump never solved the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, which is at the heart of that part of the planet's bloodshed.


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