Anti-lockdown prostests in Melbourne

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I'm in Victoria, I haven't had a friend visit since 2019

I thought there'd been discrete lockdowns with periods in between when people were allowed to visit each other?
You make it sound like one long lockdown.

Those measures are excessive. Looks like its only Victoria and NSW that are so strict. A friend of my mom's emigrated to Australia many years ago and lives in Melbourne, which seemingly has the most draconian lockdowns.

Every single person who speaks out against the accepted
government narrative is vilified.



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No Cyber, I don't think they will end, even if Victoria reaches 80%

They've been going to end, just around the corner, for over a year now.

14 days to flatten the curve.
Just a month until we can get hospitals ready for the influx!! !
Just until we can suppress it in age care.
Just until we can roll out mitigation measures in stores and public transport!! !

Look, we're beating it, we have to continue until we have zero covid, we have an opportunity to
beat this, but we only get one shot at this.

Ok Two shots(lockdown 2.0) (three shots, four shots etc)

Oh look the vaccines are so close, we need more lockdown.
Once we have QR codes, we'll be able to trace better and lockdown can end.
Once the vaccines arrive we can stop lockdown.
Once the age care homes are vaccinated we can stop lockdown.
Once everone over 80 has been vaccinated THEN we can stop lockdown.
Just two more weeks, so we can get everyone over 70 vaccinated.
Everyone over 60!! !
Everyone over 50!! !

Oh hey, an entire state of almost 7 million people has been under 22 to 23 hours a day house arrest for almost two years. Strung along with endless lies and false promises.

But don't worry once 80% of the population is vaccinated, then the government will let you out of lockdown.
They lied the other 20 odd times, but surely not 21 times!! !! !

Do you actually sincerely believe them or do you believe parroting the premiers lies is patriotic or something?

^Ii think the toll its taking on mental health is bigger than the threat posted by the actual virus of any variant.

Even that is only allowed in exceptional circumstances.
From : https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/social-gatherings



Does that paint a picture of how batshit insane things have been in Melbourne the last two years?




Not just mental health, since day one, this lockdown has been brutal on people without means.
But as the lockdown drags on, that number keeps growing higher.
The suspension of economic compensation to some of those forbidden from working has pushed some people to their wits end.

This has resulted in catastrophic levels of demand on foodbanks and other charities.

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/foodbank ... sed-covid/



Things like that don't happen when everyone is "doing just fine".

The deprivation of the normal routines of life, the loss of work, combined with enforced social isolation, and anxiety over access to things like food and money. All combine to make each-other worse.

I 100% agree with this... Lockdowns are punitive and excessively harsh. They doesn't reflect the real risk of the virus, which will inevitably have to run its course, vaccinated or unvaccinated may one be.
I'm in Melbourne, working as a Primary teacher with a family at home and it's really really grim for kids being at home, on screens all the time, with no socialising.

As an American, I'm going to be so embarrassed if the Aussies mutiny before we do, that's our thing.

Not just mental health, since day one, this lockdown has been brutal on people without means.
But as the lockdown drags on, that number keeps growing higher.
The suspension of economic compensation to some of those forbidden from working has pushed some people to their wits end.

This has resulted in catastrophic levels of demand on foodbanks and other charities.


I'd be breaking the law every other day. In my country we had a severe level of lockdown last year of five weeks during April and May. Apart from shopping we weren't allowed out from our properties. I did shopping and apart from that broke lockdown just twice, when I felt tired of being boxed in. I went walking in a nature ara and only saw one other person - a cyclist who ignored me totally.

I can't believe how insane the situation has been in your province of Victoria.

You might be right Spicewolf
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavir ... a75b3be7a6

I think Dan's plan was for the alpha variant and lockdowns might have worked. Looks like the Swedes were right after all.

Gah, more misinformation.
The current lockdown is not about herd immunity either, no more than it's about elimination.

What it's about is getting enough people vaccinated so that when we do go out of lockdown and delta sweeps through the population, as it is going to do, far fewer people are going to get seriously ill with it and we are less likely to overwhelm our medical system. We in Australia are not immune from the issues India and Indonesia have been and are going through with this delta variant.

Yes, the lockdown is causing a lot of pain, and yes, people are really tired of it. But this time it does truly look to be a temporary measure over the next few weeks until we hit enough vaccine coverage to risk opening up.

By mid to late October, when our vaccination rates are up on a par with countries like the UK, the government will stop the lockdowns in most locations, I'm sure of it. We just have to try and get through the next few weeks. (Though whether we will still get free travel around the country with all the state premiers pulling different ways is yet to be seen).

Medical experts are forecasting we need 85% vaccination to open all borders.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinic ... y-variants

But based on what's happened in Israel the delta is going to lay havoc regardless so people better be prepared.

Yes, I don't think we can "win" against the coronavirus, at some point we're just going to have to let it run its course.

But mass vaccination will help keep things to a manageable level. Noting that Israel actually only has about 60% of the population fully vaccinated with two jabs, so their pain now might be from a bit of over-optimism in the timing of their opening up.

And we might be wise to keep in place some measures such as masks and limits to numbers in indoor spaces, rather than suddenly removing all restrictions entirely.
As this article indicates, the UK can be seen as a test case:
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/wh ... a168a3a3b6

I read that Sydney has even harsher lockdowns than Melbourne at this point.

Very true. The cure seems to be worse than the disease.