Column: Larry Elder is the Black face of white supremacy.

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Who's "wh***y"? Anyone with a drop of European blood, or just anyone who can pass?

I used Orwell’s quote? I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

these days it's whoever can pass

I don't see it as a Kafka Trap.
I see it as something/k manipulative or stupid people do.

So you want to treat people differently based solely on their skin color?

Complete reverse of what you are saying. it's people who self-identify who need to "come to the party"

It's a common tactic - It's "white fragility" (or you're an "Uncle T**", "white-aligned", etc) if you don't agree with what is claimed as being the "right" opinion - To people who use (or condone) such terms, the only possible reason for others not subscribing to the "right" opinion is that they are "racist", "race traitors", etc. with no consideration given to the possibility that their "right" opinion may not actually be "right" (or appropriate), or that others may have better\more relevent\more informed opinions\views on the subject than their own.

These are simply bullying tactics designed to force compliance with the "right" opinion through the use of shaming techniques. Rather than providing valid reasoning to support what they wish to have believed and seeking to reach a mutual understanding through conversation, they instead seek to avoid having their opinion subjected to any form of scrutiny or critisism: Only a weak opinion\belief\theory needs to be sheltered from critisism\scrutiny - A strong one can stand on it's own.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcev ... 52395303d8

Quoting this comment to cyberdad just because it is shorter than the article.

Here is the thing: made up or not, the instinct to self-sort is buried deep in human beings. It happens in every culture, in every possible combination. The instinct to tie that sorting to heritage and family lineage is likewise strong. I don’t think we can ever move human beings past that. Despite all the cute stories designed to illustrate how children don’t see race, children DO see race. Depending on how familiar they are with different groups they may choose different characteristics than race to sort, but they still sort. Both my children instinctively did it. The moment of truth happened when I reacted to their sorting, what I said and how I handled it. After 12 years in a diverse school district they became truly comfortable with such a large variety of people that pretty much everyone now sorts into “people I am familiar with,” but it didn’t happen by magic.

In a similar vein, people find identity with the unique history of their own family and blood line. That shouldn’t be a bad thing, people should feel good about who they are and where they came from. The problem is when “better” or “worse” gets assigned to it. But what do you do when you find out that your great great grandfather owned and mistreated your best friend’s great great grandfather? We aren’t far enough removed from that history for these situations to not create an issue. There is no way we cannot address that. The old south has often been romanticized in American culture, but that construct alone is painful to the black community. We can’t and should not look backwards without seeing in full. Why would we want to cause that pain? Construct or not, race was used to justify some very horrible things, and the pain of those realities isn’t something people of color ever escape. The reminders surround them in nearly all aspects of daily life. And we should care; we shouldn’t want them to feel that hurt.

They experience so many things we don’t even think about. They can’t get a genealogy past a certain date because those kinds of records weren’t kept on slaves. The story of their own actual roots was wiped out. There was no building of wealth from generation to generation because they couldn’t own anything. All these little things matter and add up.

Much of the clear and obvious harm existed until 1960s. We aren’t that far removed. Much clear and obvious harm continues today.

We can say race doesn’t exist until we’re blue in the face, but human instinct will still draw little boxes and make certain groups feel less than. We have to teach people not to.

Anyway, a few other notes but I don’t have time right now. Sorry for the ramble. But … some things sound nice, but don’t fit real life.

Oh, you are a tricky one.
I will have to connect the dots for you.
You used the essence of Orwell's quote to make a point.

I was making the point that Orwell was showing the hypocrisy of the communist ideology that "all men are created equally."
Orwell added the line: "but some are more equal than others."

Consider the communist political elite who were/are billionaires, and have powers/privileges that the "little people" or "useful idiots" don't.

Now here is the crux.
Many on the left are enamoured by communist/socialist ideology.
You are arguing in favour of the progressive point of view here.
I found it interesting how there was a political/ideological mismatch in progress through implications.

I am not saying you didn't have a point about Trump.
I considered him too close to the far-right, also.
I am just saying Orwell was criticising the left side of political ideology double standards and you were referring to his concept to use against a fascist capitalist.

Perhaps "Ouch" may have been the wrong word to use.
Perhaps "Bwahahaha" may have been better, when you consider the irony, here.
But then, perhaps you meant to be ironic.
My assessment, at this point, is that you didn't.

And, as I have mentioned previously, Saul Alinski seems to have promulgated fascist concepts to fight capitalism.
I haven't done a major study of the man, but what I did see, rather shocked me.

For one thing, he appeared to be one of the most arrogant, narcissistic people I have come across, preparing to be martyred for the cause.
Quite a messiah complex going on there.

And his hatred for the Germans, (he was Jewish, btw) was staggering.
If it was up to him, he would have genocided the entire German "race", by the sounds of it.

He was sorry the atomic bomb wasn't dropped on Berlin.
My mother was in Berlin, so you can understand why his comment went down like a lead balloon with me.
The guy was seriously psychologically damaged, by the looks of it.


Ciao.

Yes this can be added to the list of current hurdles I posted earlier. Romanticising the past (for example the bizarre way the white descendants of Thomas jefferson attempted to cancel the existence of black descendants of Sally Hemmings) is not actually helpful to current generations and the part I highlighted is critical for people to move forward into the future.



The issue is that demarcation lines for these boxes are quite rigid. Its one thing to be proud of your bloodlines and cultural background, its another to exclude people on the basis of their bloodline or culture even when they are fellow Americans.

Not to change the subject so dramatically, but I like your new choice of the Comedian as your new avatar.

The use of the race card strategy to silence discussion was (an is if still used) cheap and degrading to both the people it was used against and the people who used it.
It is anti-intellectual and a haven for those who lack the intellectual capacity to formulate a good defence of their position.



You can say that again, sister.

The saying:
"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen", comes to mind.

Don't worry about it.
I have gone off-topic once or twice in my life also.

Perhaps the right should be asking why the so called race card has been used against them so successfully, if the right didn't have an atrocious record regarding race?

Thanks, at this point I basically am the Comedian, just without all the rape and murder. I'm literally smoking a Montecristo as I type this, and there's a silenced 1911 on the desk next to my ashtray. I don't have a flamethrower handy to light up with though, I have to settle for torch lighter, which isn't quite as impressive but probably tastes better than inhaling napalm fumes, and is much easier on the furniture.