Page 1 of 2 [ 27 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

JustFoundHere
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2018
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,548
Location: California

27 Aug 2021, 2:46 pm

Decided to place this discussion thread in the 'In-Depth Adult Life Discussion' Forum - on account of getting older wiser, and needing to slow-down. Hence, reassessing roles here on WP.

By the very nature of the Autism Spectrum, it is common to express things in tangents; it is what it is.

It's best to be mindful that too much confusion might discourage people concerned with Autism Spectrum to overlook important discussions here on WP! ​

Potential steps to reduce confusion here on WP:

* Reconsidering the 'QUOTE' option (the 'REPLY' option is fine to a point) to respond to discussion threads might help curb cumbersome discussion threads, maintain continuity, and reduce confusion.

* One step is to reconsider how to maintain discussion threads to around a maximum of twenty-five posts (which seems optimum).

* Limiting post sizes might better invite users to apply the 'QUOTE' option. With up to twenty-five posts to scan through, one can readily decide which posts to 'QUOTE' within managed-sized discussion threads - again maintaining continuity, and limiting confusion.

Anybody have additional ideas regarding small steps towards curbing confusion here on WP?



HeroOfHyrule
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 May 2020
Age: 20
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 6,863
Location: U.S.A.

27 Aug 2021, 3:05 pm

Keeping in mind that this is an autism forum, and that autistic people have different capabilities and comorbids could be helpful. I sometimes see higher functioning people get frustrated and act rude when someone posts something they can't read properly, or when someone goes on a tangent, like the person has decided to have problems writing things and staying on topic.

There's no problem with asking people to reiterate and stay on topic, and if you still can't understand them or they won't stay on topic, then there's also no issue with just leaving the discussion instead of being rude and making fun of them, and thus discouraging people from posting here or learning how to better their communication skills.


_________________
I use he/him pronouns.

I like playing video games, watching cartoons and anime, reading, and cooking.

I also enjoy learning + cataloguing information about different types of animals and plants.

Empathy Quotient: 34/80
Systemizing Quotient: 104/150
Friendship Quotient: 56/140
Autism Quotient: 36/80

RAADS-R: 169

CAT-Q: 153
Compensation: 57
Masking: 47
Assimilation: 49

Your broader autism cluster (Aspie) score: 144 of 200.
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 63 of 200.
You are very likely on the broader autism cluster (Aspie).


Joe90
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 21,316
Location: UK

27 Aug 2021, 5:33 pm

I'm not going to lie; I do get a little frustrated when people can't spell or write out their posts properly. I know they probably don't mean it (although some people do actually have their own way of spelling certain words even if they know it's not spelt that way, and I'm not talking about American-English). And I try not to be rude to them.
But as a person who is rather perfectionist when it comes to writing posts, I do get a little irked at how other people can just post and not be bugged by any typos. And with technology of today most computers and phones have things like spell-check and autocorrect, so I thought that would be a good help to make people's posts more readable if they do struggle with writing.


_________________
Female
Aged 31
On antidepressants
Have ASD, ADHD and anxiety disorder
Empathy score: 61 out of a possible 80. (High)


mohsart
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2020
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Posts: 479
Location: Southern Sweden

28 Aug 2021, 7:21 am

Gotta agree.
My spelling and grammar were awful in my teens, but I worked on it, and now I think I'm doing OK.
I can't help feeling bemused of how some native English speakers treat their language.
It may be an autistic trait to be anal about this?
I have to admit though, it is kind of fun for a non native English speaker to find errors and faults in texts written by natives :-)

/Mats


_________________
Interests: Comic books, Manga; most things to do with Handicraft, wood, textile, metal etc, modern materials; horror, true crime; languages, art, and history to an extent
Uninterests: All things about motors; celebrities; fashion; sports; career; stock market


JustFoundHere
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2018
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,548
Location: California

28 Aug 2021, 1:22 pm

Paragraph breaks in posts breaks-up sometimes lengthy text, and hence encourages people to investigate posted content.



Joe90
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 21,316
Location: UK

28 Aug 2021, 2:10 pm

JustFoundHere wrote:
Paragraph breaks in posts breaks-up sometimes lengthy text, and hence encourages people to investigate posted content.


It does, but when you scroll down and there's like 20 paragraphs I sometimes lose focus. Unless it's something explaining points like someone listing traits of a condition/disorder they have or whatever. Or listing "You might be Aspie if..." things. That's OK because the paragraphs are short.


_________________
Female
Aged 31
On antidepressants
Have ASD, ADHD and anxiety disorder
Empathy score: 61 out of a possible 80. (High)


JustFoundHere
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2018
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,548
Location: California

02 Sep 2021, 3:48 pm

New and regular visitors, and WP members alike might view the 'Active Discussions' list on the main page as one of many indicators of the gist of WP.

Many of us here on WP might feel hard-pressed to contribute to 'Active Discussions' threads - on account of potentially important content getting "lost in the shuffle" of well................active discussion threads!

In-depth discussions on the Autism Spectrum can be difficult to maintain - hence such in-depth discussions infrequently show-up on the 'Active Discussions' listings.

Can in-depth discussions become more of the rule, and less of the exception - and hence frequently augment the 'Active Discussions' listings? Any further proactive steps to reduce confusion here on WP?



JustFoundHere
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2018
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,548
Location: California

17 Sep 2021, 5:23 pm

JustFoundHere wrote:
New and regular visitors, and WP members alike might view the 'Active Discussions' list on the main page as one of many indicators of the gist of WP.

Many of us here on WP might feel hard-pressed to contribute to 'Active Discussions' threads - on account of potentially important content getting "lost in the shuffle" of well................active discussion threads!

In-depth discussions on the Autism Spectrum can be difficult to maintain - hence such in-depth discussions infrequently show-up on the 'Active Discussions' listings.

Can in-depth discussions become more of the rule, and less of the exception - and hence frequently augment the 'Active Discussions' listings? Any further proactive steps to reduce confusion here on WP?


ADDENDUM: Reassessing our recent WP posts might help to curb confusion. Reevaluating our previous posts, and noting feedback in discussion threads might act as "a guidance of sorts" of how to reassess our experiences here on WP!



DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 44,193
Location: United Kingdom

20 Sep 2021, 1:43 am

It's completely unnecesary to 'quote' the contents of the previous post if you're replying to it. Quite a lot of people do this, both here and on other forums, but it just takes up space. If you want to make it clear that you're specifically replying to the previous poster, just use the ^ sign at the start of your own post.


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


mohsart
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2020
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Posts: 479
Location: Southern Sweden

20 Sep 2021, 4:09 am

DeepHour: Or do it like this.

However, I disagree that quoting is always unnecesary.
I agree that quoting the whole post makes little sense, but if one removes all text but the piece one is commenting on, in particular when commenting on a lengthy post, it is quite helpful.

/Mats


_________________
Interests: Comic books, Manga; most things to do with Handicraft, wood, textile, metal etc, modern materials; horror, true crime; languages, art, and history to an extent
Uninterests: All things about motors; celebrities; fashion; sports; career; stock market


Joe90
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 21,316
Location: UK

20 Sep 2021, 4:49 am

DeepHour wrote:
It's completely unnecesary to 'quote' the contents of the previous post if you're replying to it. Quite a lot of people do this, both here and on other forums, but it just takes up space. If you want to make it clear that you're specifically replying to the previous poster, just use the ^ sign at the start of your own post.


I hate it when people quote a quoted quoted quoted quoted quoted quoted quoted quoted quoted quote. This usually happens when there's an argument going on.


_________________
Female
Aged 31
On antidepressants
Have ASD, ADHD and anxiety disorder
Empathy score: 61 out of a possible 80. (High)


nick007
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 May 2010
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,809
Location: was Louisiana but now Vermont in the police state called USA

21 Sep 2021, 12:31 am

I think it would help if we tried to keep in mind that when somebody is expressing a complaint or issue or problem with a certain type of person, the OP is partly venting their frustration to blow off steam & they do NOT mean that they believe all people are like that in negative ways. For example I seen LOTS of posts in L&D get derailed over my many years here because when somebody was saying something negative & used the word Men or Woman, at least a few readers automatically assumed that the person must be complaining about all men or all woman because the poster did not directly state that they were not talking about all men or all woman. They are always exceptions to everything & we should not need to post a disclaimer every time we say anything negative that lists every single possible exception to our complaint. I think we all hate others putting words in our mouths & we should try to avoid doing that to to each other. WP is meant to be a support site & NOT a flame war site. This causes the OPs to feel even more alienated & misjudged which would only add to their problems & issues. Plus LOTS of potentially helpful or useful threads get derailed by this petty bickering.


_________________
"I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem!"

~King Of The Hill


"Hear all, trust nothing"

~Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition #190
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ru ... cquisition


Joe90
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 21,316
Location: UK

21 Sep 2021, 5:37 am

I always use words like "some", "many", etc, when talking about men or women or any group of people.


_________________
Female
Aged 31
On antidepressants
Have ASD, ADHD and anxiety disorder
Empathy score: 61 out of a possible 80. (High)


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 52,234
Location: Stendec

21 Sep 2021, 8:33 am

I, for one, would appreciate more widespread use of the Oxford Comma.



nick007
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 May 2010
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,809
Location: was Louisiana but now Vermont in the police state called USA

21 Sep 2021, 8:55 am

Joe90 wrote:
I always use words like "some", "many", etc, when talking about men or women or any group of people.
Not everyone thinks too thou, I used to not think about that. Plus I've seen a bit of posts where the OP used words like All or NoOne when talking about their specific experiences & others acted hostile & put words in their mouths anyways. I've been a victim of that at least a few times. I sometimes felt like I needed a lawer to proofread my posts & type out a thousand word disclaimer mentioning every possible exception I can think of in order to avoid these types of misunderstandings.


_________________
"I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem!"

~King Of The Hill


"Hear all, trust nothing"

~Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition #190
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ru ... cquisition


mohsart
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2020
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Posts: 479
Location: Southern Sweden

21 Sep 2021, 9:24 am

Fnord wrote:
I, for one, would appreciate more widespread use of the Oxford Comma.

I dislike it, but I use it just as a show off.

/Mats


_________________
Interests: Comic books, Manga; most things to do with Handicraft, wood, textile, metal etc, modern materials; horror, true crime; languages, art, and history to an extent
Uninterests: All things about motors; celebrities; fashion; sports; career; stock market