27 Sep 2021, 9:17 pm
Jakki wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Jakki wrote:
i realize medicin
e for all is a hot topic in the US.. but quite honestly have had to endure much medical care in this fine country of ours and it would be nice . If we all had equal healthcare. but it just isnt the way it is in reality . These people portraying themselves as doctors etc. are serious practicioners of quackery .Except for the very basic needs . Have seen things you would not consider legal performed by people with medical licenses. It seems the current logic is to maintain people in a sick state so they can go on padding their wallets. And seeming justifying exaggerating peoples misery .
They do not practice curative medicine but rather only treat symptomatic medicine. It seens if no other reason except to justify their own existence and are taught that from medical school onwards.
e for all is a hot topic in the US.. but quite honestly have had to endure much medical care in this fine country of ours and it would be nice . If we all had equal healthcare. but it just isnt the way it is in reality . These people portraying themselves as doctors etc. are serious practicioners of quackery .Except for the very basic needs . Have seen things you would not consider legal performed by people with medical licenses. It seems the current logic is to maintain people in a sick state so they can go on padding their wallets. And seeming justifying exaggerating peoples misery .
They do not practice curative medicine but rather only treat symptomatic medicine. It seens if no other reason except to justify their own existence and are taught that from medical school onwards.
Are things improving under the Democrats?
Absolutely Not ...!
And that is the fault of the Republicans, who aren't in power, right? <disingenuous.>
27 Sep 2021, 9:20 pm
Pepe wrote:
I have a problem with Blab's super-duper hyperpartisanship.
He blames *everything/k* on the republicans and, under the circumstances, that is logically very difficult to believe.
Recently I have learnt about 2 "conservative" Democrats.
Well, it seems they are contributing to the political inertia.
May I suggest people vote them out, for a start?
BTW, which party did you vote for, in the last election?
I started skipping posts I felt were statements of personal opinion, unproductive, or not actual answers to the questions posed.
I did my best to provide the answers.
I think you can guess how I voted in the last election, but I consider that inappropriate information for me to post on a public message board.
I can honestly say that changing healthcare was not on the top of most voters' list. The goal for most Democratic voters was to KEEP the progress made under Obama and PREVENT Republicans from sending healthcare back to where it was before the ACA (otherwise known as Obamacare). The DREAM list of the most progressive Democrats is single payer, but that would be a MASSIVE change that really wouldn't be workable in the middle of a pandemic. Moderate Democrats favor a Medicare buy-in option, which is theoretically achievable even at this point in time, but conservatives have been successfully painting it as a foot in the door to socialized medicine, which most Americans really do not want, and the infrastructure package has been a higher priority. There are only so many hours available to negotiate and write legislation.
I personally like having moderate Democrats involved in any discussion. Senator Manchin may have outsized power at the moment, but that is because he is doing his best to represent the constituencies that elected him. Senator Manchin would not be replaced by another Democrat; he comes from a conservative state. If Democrats want to keep his seat, they have to understand what he can sell to his voters. In an ideal world this sort of situation is a useful check to keep the party from getting too extreme. I realize that in this one case it is holding back progress on something you personally care about, but I will never fault a Senator for doing his best to accurately represent those who put him in office to, yep, represent them. So it's tricky for me. He stands in the way of things I want, but he really is doing his job (to represent West Virginia) and, IMHO, doing it well. Too well
, maybe.
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27 Sep 2021, 9:22 pm
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh okay. Could the democrats bring in outside experts, to help bring in socialized healthcare?
that is what they've done for 3 decades now. no use. the GOP is the big block to progress in this country along with a largely uneducated electorate with a majority of low info voters who let GOP dog whistles distract them from the prize, or convince them to give up their american franchise and just stay home instead of doing what it takes to overcome organized GOP opposition and vote like their lives depended on it.
Are you saying the people who voted Democrat are also "uneducated" and can be influenced by GOP "dog-whistling"?
How does that work?
BTW, Didn't around 10,000,000 more people vote for the Democrats?
Does the GOP have influence over them also?
Your reasoning makes no sense to me.
27 Sep 2021, 9:28 pm
Jakki wrote:
Nothing like living in a country that is progrezsing backwards.... 
America is on the decline, by the looks of it.
But I am fairly sure it will remain a dominant world influence in our lifetime, cross paws.
But whatever you do, don't come to Australia unless you are planning to learn Mandarin beforehand.
BTW, What are American immigration laws regarding skunks?
27 Sep 2021, 9:29 pm
auntblabby wrote:
i suspect if i were canadian i'd be far more proud of my nation than i am right now.
Hurrah for AUKUS!
That is all I need to say.
27 Sep 2021, 9:32 pm
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27 Sep 2021, 9:40 pm
Flown wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But can women use other means of protection though, that are outside of the mans hands more such as sponges or cervical caps?
Sponges are not exactly effective (only ~75% effective at preventing pregnancy), and can come with a load of issues.
1) They may increase one's chance of STD (causes irritation of the
2) many women are sensitive/allergic to the spermicide. Spermicide can burn us!
3) They put a woman at risk of TSS (toxic shock syndrome)
4) They can cause urinary tract and yeast infections
5) If a woman has already had 1 or more children, they are even less effective
6) They are difficult to both insert and remove (potentially leading to accidental pregnancy and/or TSS)
Additionally, many brands of the sponge have been discontinued in the US. I think there is one brand that can be bought online, but they run at $5 each.
Cervical caps are at around 80% effective when used properly. Problems with them:
1) Your doctor has to fit you for one. You have to access to/money for that kind of healthcare. I'm honestly not even sure if insurance would cover this procedure.
2) Reactions to spermicide as listed above.
3) Position must be SPOT ON for them to be effective. They can easily dislodge during sex.
4) It takes time to carry out #3, which may ruin the entire mood if planning for coitus
5) There is a risk of TSS (especially considering the cap must be left in for 6 hours after sex)
6) They can cause cervicitis or bladder infections
I think it is important to note that anti-abortion groups' and conservative politicians' attacks on Planned Parenthood are cutting the flow of free contraceptives and affordable reproductive healthcare.
My points being:
1) Birth control is not perfect.
2) Accidents can and will happen.
3) Not everyone has access to all forms of birth control.
4) Not everyone is able to use all forms of birth control.
5) Women don't always have a choice in getting pregnant (rape, partners who lie about using contraceptives, oral birth control failure, human error, etc)
5) This is not a black and white topic. It is a complex topic with infinite gray areas.
6) We don't know every story (every shade of gray), and it is not our place to intervene with a woman's reproductive healthcare.
Good grief, Charlie Brown.
After listening to that, if I *were* a woman, I would be celibate.
Now that I think about it, if that were the criteria, I *am* a woman.
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