10 Sep 2021, 9:55 am
10 Sep 2021, 2:56 pm
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Being for the death penalty is not enough to make someone classifiable as "evil".
Andy Rooney said "I am against the death penalty, but there are some people I read about in the news that I could just kill". LIke him I lean toward being against the death penalty, but I cant say that l disown and lack all sympathy for folks who support it.
Andy Rooney said "I am against the death penalty, but there are some people I read about in the news that I could just kill". LIke him I lean toward being against the death penalty, but I cant say that l disown and lack all sympathy for folks who support it.
Most people are emotionalists rather than rationalists.
Studies have verified this.
However,
Based on what I have seen, there is a disproportionate number of emotionalists, in America.
No. Most folks everywhere are like you. Emotionalists pretending to be rationalist.
10 Sep 2021, 3:31 pm
10 Sep 2021, 4:38 pm
10 Sep 2021, 8:41 pm
Pepe wrote:
You watch executions? 
"Interesting".
"Interesting".
Not literally, snuff movies aren't really my bag, but it's amazing how complicated some of the states make killing someone, and how frequently they manage to bungle the job.
10 Sep 2021, 9:00 pm
10 Sep 2021, 10:18 pm
10 Sep 2021, 10:29 pm
Fnord wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
Fnord wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
If Americans are so evil why are so many people risking their lives to get here?
Why are there so many Americans hell bent on building a giant wall to keep these people from coming here?
<Pepe points at the (White House) elephant in the room>
The Biden administration hasn't anything/k to do with that, by any chance?
I don't expect an answer, but...
So you believe anyone and everyone should be allowed to freely walk into America?
How did that work out for the turtle's German?
10 Sep 2021, 10:31 pm
MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
It is Trump's Vanity Wall, which has mysteriously lost funding and public support, just like its namesake.
Trump still gets plenty of funding although it may be less public than before.
Funding for government projects?
I doubt it.
10 Sep 2021, 10:32 pm
Fnord wrote:
MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
It is Trump's Vanity Wall, which has mysteriously lost funding and public support, just like its namesake.
Trump still gets plenty of funding although it may be less public than before.I think you guys are using a different context to each other.
Well, initially.
10 Sep 2021, 10:35 pm
Mr Reynholm wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
If Americans are so evil why are so many people risking their lives to get here?
Why are there so many Americans hell bent on building a giant wall to keep these people from coming here?
Why do you lock your front door?
People are welcome to come here legally. There is a system in place to legally emigrate to the evil United States.
Don't be ridiculous.
How will the Taliban get in if there is a vetting process?
10 Sep 2021, 10:42 pm
VegetableMan wrote:
Tell that to people who have lost someone at the hands of some psychotic killer. I am against the death penalty, but admit that I might want to see the person who killed a loved one pay the ultimate price.
I'm human. That does not make me evil, just flawed and often ruled by emotion.
I'm human. That does not make me evil, just flawed and often ruled by emotion.
Ummm.
You do realise what you just said, right?
That people who are not responsible for their actions should be held responsible for their actions.
Perhaps you mean "psychopathic killer"?
10 Sep 2021, 10:44 pm
NoClearMind53 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58503973
Logical deduction is as follows:
1. The majority favours DP.
2. The majority don't care about innocent being put to death, even though they know the risk.
No. 2 is evil because you are in favour of executing an innocent (it is is evil to punish an innocent). Therefore, the logical conclusion must be that the majority (no. 1) are evil.
Quote:
A poll from the Pew Research Center released in June suggested that 60% of US adults favoured the death penalty, though nearly 80% believed there was some risk that an innocent person could be put to death.
Logical deduction is as follows:
1. The majority favours DP.
2. The majority don't care about innocent being put to death, even though they know the risk.
No. 2 is evil because you are in favour of executing an innocent (it is is evil to punish an innocent). Therefore, the logical conclusion must be that the majority (no. 1) are evil.
I don't think number 2 is true. People are ignorant to the massive flaws in our criminal justice system. They won't wake up until they experience something first hand.
Isn't it a question of people not wanting to foot the taxpayer bill of a life sentence?
If true, then perhaps it is a pragmatic evil to invoke the death sentence.
10 Sep 2021, 10:49 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Being for the death penalty is not enough to make someone classifiable as "evil".
Andy Rooney said "I am against the death penalty, but there are some people I read about in the news that I could just kill". LIke him I lean toward being against the death penalty, but I cant say that l disown and lack all sympathy for folks who support it.
Andy Rooney said "I am against the death penalty, but there are some people I read about in the news that I could just kill". LIke him I lean toward being against the death penalty, but I cant say that l disown and lack all sympathy for folks who support it.
Most people are emotionalists rather than rationalists.
Studies have verified this.
However,
Based on what I have seen, there is a disproportionate number of emotionalists, in America.
No. Most folks everywhere are like you. Emotionalists pretending to be rationalist.
Am not. [pout]
10 Sep 2021, 10:53 pm
CarlM wrote:
No, I don't believe people are evil because they support the DP in a far from perfect criminal justice system. The real problem with the DP is:
Studies show it is ineffective at deterring crime. Yes, Americans love to ignore science.
Support for it could be more about vengeance than deterring crime. This is abhorrent but not evil.
Support for it could be more about wanting bad things to be gone. But that doesn't happen and death row drags on and on.
Studies show it is ineffective at deterring crime. Yes, Americans love to ignore science.
Support for it could be more about vengeance than deterring crime. This is abhorrent but not evil.
Support for it could be more about wanting bad things to be gone. But that doesn't happen and death row drags on and on.
In Australia, I think most people would consider this understandable, but immoral/evil.
10 Sep 2021, 10:57 pm
