Kraichgauer
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20 Sep 2021, 3:58 am
20 Sep 2021, 4:09 am
Dont want to end up on the FBI's most wanted 
20 Sep 2021, 8:19 am
20 Sep 2021, 8:24 am
Fnord wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Or maybe the second demonstration was actually a loony idea dreamt up by Trumpta... Trump voters.
Possible, but it sure looked like there were more feds and media there than actual demonstrators of any persuasion.With QAnon's messages still being vague and cryptic, and Trump no longer Tweeting of Facebooking, each of those Q-bots is left to think for himself (never mind the Q-bots like Marjorie Taylor Greene, since they are mere camp followers by comparison). With no single leadership figure, their movement is dissolving into the slime of conspiracy theory and cult worship -- nothing mainstream any more.
My best guess is that a lot of people were shocked at how the 6th got out of control, and didn't want to be part of that again.
Just speculation.
20 Sep 2021, 8:35 am
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20 Sep 2021, 3:48 pm
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Kraichgauer
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20 Sep 2021, 5:03 pm
20 Sep 2021, 5:17 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Enjoyed the humour of this image ,,actually laughed out loud..... then realized it is actually based in reality .... Have witnessed lower level gov officials acting out in this manner against all forms
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
20 Sep 2021, 7:49 pm
Jakki wrote:
Enjoyed the humour of this image ,,actually laughed out loud..... then realized it is actually based in reality .... Have witnessed lower level gov officials acting out in this manner against all forms
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
Yup, a lot of people just want to be left alone, as someone with feet in both camps, this is what it feels like right now:
20 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm
Fnord wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Or maybe Trump voters are just losing their fanatical zeal.
the attempted coup get arrested, tried, convicted, and incarcerated. Your assumption is that most people agreed with the violence?
If so, I have to disagree.
Fnord wrote:
As a side bar, did you also note the strong correlation between Trumpsters and covid deniers?
Yes.
I also see the high degree of hyperpartisanship on both sides.
Fnord wrote:
After losing 30+ relatives, friends, and acquaintances to covid in the last 18 months, I am now seeing an uptick in the number of denialists and Trump supporters I have known finally giving in and getting vaccinated. Some are even starting to wear facemasks. It is still gonna take a helluva lot more ocean to turn that ship around; but it IS finally starting to come around to the proper heading.
You may have missed the changing conditions.
The alpha virus (a misnomer in terms of lethality) was not as contagious nor as deadly as the delta virus.
Fnord wrote:
Yep, the USS Trump seems to be slowly changing course without its Captain at the helm.
People's thinking changes as a result of new factors in the equation.
This is one of the definitions of being "intelligent".
20 Sep 2021, 7:58 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Or maybe Trump voters are just losing their fanatical zeal.
This seems to be the case; although it must be hard for them to watch their friends who participated in the attempted coup get arrested, tried, convicted, and incarcerated.As a side bar, did you also note the strong correlation between Trumpsters and covid deniers?
After losing 30+ relatives, friends, and acquaintances to covid in the last 18 months, I am now seeing an uptick in the number of denialists and Trump supporters I have known finally giving in and getting vaccinated. Some are even starting to wear facemasks. It is still gonna take a helluva lot more ocean to turn that ship around; but it IS finally starting to come around to the proper heading.
Yep, the USS Trump seems to be slowly changing course without its Captain at the helm.
I always knew there was no real distinction between Trumpsters and most anti-vaxxers.
Trump being booed, when he suggested to his rally members that people should take the vaccine, was a bit of a give-away to me.
But I have no knowledge of the proportion of Republicans who are anti-vaxers.
I doubt that this is a binary thing.
20 Sep 2021, 8:01 pm
Jakki wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Enjoyed the humour of this image ,,actually laughed out loud..... then realized it is actually based in reality .... Have witnessed lower level gov officials acting out in this manner against all forms
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
You gained pleasure out of the humorous post?
We will have to put a stop to that.
20 Sep 2021, 8:04 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Yup, a lot of people just want to be left alone, as someone with feet in both camps, this is what it feels like right now:
Well, I have become a suburban hermit.
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20 Sep 2021, 8:07 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Jakki wrote:
Enjoyed the humour of this image ,,actually laughed out loud..... then realized it is actually based in reality .... Have witnessed lower level gov officials acting out in this manner against all forms
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
Yup, a lot of people just want to be left alone, as someone with feet in both camps, this is what it feels like right now:
If only that was true about the right. Full Frontal With Samantha Bee ran a story about trans women in Wyoming who had purchased their own ranch, and just wanted to be left alone. And then the right wingers came to the nearby town to parade with their "Don't Tread On Me" flags down the street, and explicitly calling for ending the rights for the local trans Americans who hadn't offended anyone but be trans. So frightened, they set up security cameras around their ranch, and it turns out that paranoia was justified. The cameras caught three heavily armed militia types creeping up on their ranch during the night. The trans women escorted them off their property at gunpoint. So, no, the right doesn't always just want to be left alone. And that's hardly the only case of conservatives wanting to shove their views down someone else' throat.
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20 Sep 2021, 8:10 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Jakki wrote:
Enjoyed the humour of this image ,,actually laughed out loud..... then realized it is actually based in reality .... Have witnessed lower level gov officials acting out in this manner against all forms
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
Of varying individuals . That normally just are wishing to avoid hostilities .
Yup, a lot of people just want to be left alone, as someone with feet in both camps, this is what it feels like right now:
If only that was true about the right. Full Frontal With Samantha Bee ran a story about trans women in Wyoming who had purchased their own ranch, and just wanted to be left alone. And then the right wingers came to the nearby town to parade with their "Don't Tread On Me" flags down the street, and explicitly calling for ending the rights for the local trans Americans who hadn't offended anyone but be trans. So frightened, they set up security cameras around their ranch, and it turns out that paranoia was justified. The cameras caught three heavily armed militia types creeping up on their ranch during the night. The trans women escorted them off their property at gunpoint. So, no, the right doesn't always just want to be left alone. And that's hardly the only case of conservatives wanting to shove their views down someone else' throat.
Keep in mind though, for transphobes there's often a tendency to treat trans-people's mere existence as an infringement on their rights so from their perspective it is still I just want to be left alone it's just that the expectations that define being left alone are unreasonable.
