NYC restaurant hostess assaulted after asking for vaxx proof

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19 Sep 2021, 7:34 pm

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Three Texas women who were seen in a video allegedly attacking a NYC restaurant hostess after their vaccination cards were questioned said they were racially profiled and called the n-word.

The trio, who are black, are now claiming their unnamed 24 year-old hostess, who is Asian, was actually the aggressor, and have called for her to be fired.

They spoke out two days after Thursday's incident at popular Upper West Side restaurant Carmines. Restaurant staff jumped in to defend their coworker, who was left with viruses and scratches, with footage of the brawl making headlines across the United States.

Since then, lawyers for the women and the restaurant exchanged words, and Hawk Newsome, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter NY, said they plan to hold a protest on Monday.

Texas civil rights lawyer Justin Moore told Daily News, 'This hostess clearly has some anger management issues and unfortunately her aggression and her violence led to something that three Black women are being punished for.'

A lawyer for Carmine's denied the Texas women's accusation.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10005421/Black-Texas-women-filmed-attacking-NYC-restaurant-hostess-say-racially-profiled.html



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19 Sep 2021, 7:57 pm

These differences in interpretation are what investigations, courts of law, and jury trials are for. Does not look good for the tourists, however.


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20 Sep 2021, 7:16 am

This is turning into a media dog's breakfast.

The three black women are claiming they had proof of vaccination but the asian hostess insisted their vaccination certificates were fake because they were black.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/nyre ... fight.html

Footage shows three women had, in fact, provided documentation of Covid vaccinations. The altercation began after two men who joined their party several minutes later were unable to provide proof, the lawyers for both sides said.

Several minutes later, three men arrive to join the group, but only one of the three shows a vaccination card, lawyers for both sides said. A short time later, after the three women, who are Black, have joined the men outside, the fight breaks out.

Justin Moore, a lawyer who represents one of the women, Kaeita Nkeenge Rankin, said that the hostess used a racial slur and spoke condescendingly to the patrons, suggesting that their vaccination cards were fake.

This suggest the Asian hostess may have told little "white lies"



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20 Sep 2021, 10:48 am

It's crazy that the hostess was assaulted for asking for proof of vaccination. That's what I said.



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18 Oct 2021, 11:02 pm

My sympathy for that hostess is very, very limited. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. 'Nuff said.



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18 Oct 2021, 11:16 pm

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My sympathy for that hostess is very, very limited. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. 'Nuff said.


So your analysis is, that if you disagree with a restaurants policy it is ok to assualt the hostess to teach them a lesson when they state said policy?


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18 Oct 2021, 11:24 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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It could be that she used a racial slur. Or maybe not.

But also ...

1) Blacks tend to be paranoid about stuff like vaccines for slightly different reasons than the reasons White MAGA types get arrogant about it because of bad experiences Blacks have had in the past.

2) The Black family in question may have been triggered by memories of the Jim Crow south (of which Texas was part) when Blacks might be refused service in public places like restaurants, and jumped to the false conclusion that the vaccine requirment was really a cover for descriminating against them because of the color of their skin (like a literacy tests were used to suppress voting back in segregation days of the South).


Well whites seem to be paranoid about the same thing, so do try to stray away from generalizing racial groups that way. And also, black people is a generally more appropriate way to say it than 'blacks'. And also sure, but how does that excuse all the white hillbillies that wont get their goddamn vaccine?


Blacks were victims in the Tuskegee experiment. Not Whites.
I didnt say it "excused" anything.


sorry I think I was misunderstanding you a bit and some of this topic was angering me. That does make a little more sense but still does no seem appropriate to beat up the hostess, maybe just file a complaint if you think you were treated unfairly.

But also like idk everyone should be getting the vaccine do I do not feel it, is racial discrimination to ask to see proof of vaccine in a place that requires it.


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18 Oct 2021, 11:54 pm

The restaurant was perfectly entitled to hold the policy and the hostess was entitled to ask.

However, what the hostess claimed transpired and what actually transpired (based on the defendants lawyer) seems to not line up.

The hostess initially let the women in to their seats but allegedly when confronted about the men's vaccination certificates may have then told the women she now suspected their certificates were fake. Why? because the black women who were already escorted to their table were the ones who attacked the hostess.

I strongly suspect a Karen comment uttered from the hostess probably triggered the fracas



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19 Oct 2021, 3:39 am

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I strongly suspect a Karen comment uttered from the hostess probably triggered the fracas


Your transcontinental spidey-senses tingling, are they?


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19 Oct 2021, 5:44 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
So your analysis is, that if you disagree with a restaurants policy it is ok to assualt the hostess to teach them a lesson when they state said policy?
It's not something I'd do myself, but I still don't feel much sympathy for that hostess. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. I live in a very liberal area, I saw servers go into freakout mode when someone's mask is a millimeter too low, all over a flu virus long past serving its purpose of helping oust Trump.

I once ate in a restaurant where a waitress got extremely patronizing with me over signing up for their own contact tracing app to order food. (Not many restaurants in my area do that, and it's not required by state law right now.) I wanted to walk out, but my friends talked me into staying. I reluctantly agreed; one friend, knowing my political views, let me order on his account, and I gave him cash. Throughout the meal, the waitress tried to stick it to me by harping on me to keep my mask on at the table unless I'm actively eating. The joke was on her: as my tip, I ripped-up a $5 bill, and scattered the pieces. 8O :D It was the first time in 18 years I stiffed someone. (The previous time, I stiffed a waitress who thought I was ugly, and was trashing me to her colleague where I could hear her.)

I have no regrets about my actions. Last summer, she was probably screaming "whoo-hoo!!" as looters burned down businesses and smashed storefronts, in packed crowds with no masks.



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27 Oct 2021, 9:51 pm

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My sympathy for that hostess is very, very limited. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. 'Nuff said.


I love watching YouTube videos of anti maskers getting maced, tasered, and arrested.



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27 Oct 2021, 9:59 pm

Axeman wrote:
Aspie1 wrote:
My sympathy for that hostess is very, very limited. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. 'Nuff said.
I love watching YouTube videos of anti maskers getting maced, tasered, and arrested.
And I love watching Parler videos of freedom-hating pro-mask Nazis getting what they deserve. God bless QAnon!

#Trump2024


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27 Oct 2021, 10:07 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
Aspie1 wrote:
My sympathy for that hostess is very, very limited. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. 'Nuff said.
I love watching YouTube videos of anti maskers getting maced, tasered, and arrested.
And I love watching Parler videos of freedom-hating pro-mask Nazis getting what they deserve. God bless QAnon!

#Trump2024




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27 Oct 2021, 10:10 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
Aspie1 wrote:
My sympathy for that hostess is very, very limited. She messed with the bull, she got the horns. 'Nuff said.
I love watching YouTube videos of anti maskers getting maced, tasered, and arrested.
And I love watching Parler videos of freedom-hating pro-mask Nazis getting what they deserve. God bless QAnon!

#Trump2024


People wearing masks shouldn't be attacked by anyone so just what are you saying here?



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27 Oct 2021, 10:10 pm

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The joke is on you! That woman's mask couldn't be more accurate.



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27 Oct 2021, 10:14 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
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The joke is on you! That woman's mask couldn't be more accuerate.


Im hoping the orange fools head explodes due to the impact of a small, hard, fast metal object long before the next election.