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18 Oct 2021, 7:38 am

It was thought that circumcision was the "proper thing" for "medical reasons" in the "western world" back about 50 or so years ago. It was thought that circumcision prevented penile cancer.



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18 Oct 2021, 7:50 am

In the region of the planet where i currently live, the tails and ears of dogs are legally better protected by law than the penis of a newborn boy.

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18 Oct 2021, 7:56 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It was thought that circumcision was the "proper thing" for "medical reasons" in the "western world" back about 50 or so years ago. It was thought that circumcision prevented penile cancer.

Not in the European part of the "western world", AFAIK.


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18 Oct 2021, 8:16 am

magz wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It was thought that circumcision was the "proper thing" for "medical reasons" in the "western world" back about 50 or so years ago. It was thought that circumcision prevented penile cancer.

Not in the European part of the "western world", AFAIK.


Yes. In the US it became the norm to have it done to all male newborns in the mid 20th century- Gentile/Jew made no difference. But apparently that medical "wisdom" wasnt the thing in Europe at that time, where it remained just a niche religious rite of Jews and Muslims, and not the majority default thing to do.



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18 Oct 2021, 8:24 am

I stand corrected. It was only done to about 20-25% of babies in the UK in the 1960s. Even less in other European countries.

It was done to about 90% of babies in the early 1960s in the US.



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18 Oct 2021, 9:51 am

As far as I am aware its not a very common thing to be done to babies here in the UK. I hear its pretty common in America for non religious reasons though, just because parents want their kids wang to look like that. is that real?!



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18 Oct 2021, 10:09 am

It was done because, supposedly, circumcision prevented penile cancer. It was also supposed to prevent other sorts of infections around the penis.

It had nothing to do with Jewishness.



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18 Oct 2021, 4:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It was standard practice to circumcise male newborns in the US until recently.

Female circumcision is generally worse for women than male circumcision is for males.

I’m not an advocate for circumcision.


It simply indicates the need for greater social evolution.

You would be in a pickle if you had a baby son, however, wouldn't you.
I assume that isn't in the cards, at your age.
Bullet dodged. 8)


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18 Oct 2021, 5:00 pm

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It's important for me to add to my Original Topic, that I am not against people voluntarily choosing to be circumcised. It's their choice.

But when you make a choice for others, it has to be purely for medical reasons. Religion must never be used to mutilate or subjugate other people. What you choose to do with your own body is your decision alone.

But don't force other people to do the same.


Total agreement. 8)


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18 Oct 2021, 5:04 pm

Erewhon wrote:
In the region of the planet where i currently live, the tails and ears of dogs are legally better protected by law than the penis of a newborn boy.

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That abomination on dog mutilation has been banned here in Australia also.
Yet circumcision isn't.
"Interesting".


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18 Oct 2021, 5:08 pm

magz wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It was thought that circumcision was the "proper thing" for "medical reasons" in the "western world" back about 50 or so years ago. It was thought that circumcision prevented penile cancer.

Not in the European part of the "western world", AFAIK.


That cancer has more to do with a virus/disease rather than the foreskin.
Protection of careful hygiene post-coitus is all that is required, from what I understand. 8)


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18 Oct 2021, 5:12 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
magz wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It was thought that circumcision was the "proper thing" for "medical reasons" in the "western world" back about 50 or so years ago. It was thought that circumcision prevented penile cancer.

Not in the European part of the "western world", AFAIK.


Yes. In the US it became the norm to have it done to all male newborns in the mid 20th century- Gentile/Jew made no difference. But apparently that medical "wisdom" wasnt the thing in Europe at that time, where it remained just a niche religious rite of Jews and Muslims, and not the majority default thing to do.


I have heard it said that the cost-benefit given to the doctor providing the service was a significant factor.

<sing>
"All things are free in Ameria.
For a small fee for circumcision in Ameria." :mrgreen:


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And one more thing,


"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet." Humour is not meant to be taken seriously, yet many pervert its intent.
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19 Oct 2021, 4:21 am

Pepe wrote:
"All things are free in Ameria.
For a small fee for circumcision in Ameria." :mrgreen:

Do you mean "All things are free in America if you have money to pay for them"?


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19 Oct 2021, 5:03 am

magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
"All things are free in Ameria.
For a small fee for circumcision in Ameria." :mrgreen:

Do you mean "All things are free in America if you have money to pay for them"?


Indeed. :mrgreen:


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"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet." Humour is not meant to be taken seriously, yet many pervert its intent.
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19 Oct 2021, 5:34 am

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https://www.desertflowerfoundation.org/ ... l/188.html
while
"Female cosmetic genital surgery is rapidly gaining popularity". Patient demand is increasing, and female cosmetic genital surgery is becoming a subspecialty of plastic surgery.
"Anatomy and Aesthetics of the Labia Minora: The Ideal Vulva?"
"Female genital cosmetic surgery: a labial obsession"
( female genital mutilation and female genital cosmetic surgery are both “cultural” issues.)
& "Barbie Procedure for genital beautification" ("these" are titles or headlines)



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19 Oct 2021, 10:06 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It was done to about 90% of babies in the early 1960s in the US.


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