23 Oct 2021, 4:12 am
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Kraichgauer
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24 Oct 2021, 12:55 am
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The smoking gun that claimed the life of Halyna Hutchins might've been more than just an on-set prop -- it was also being fired recreationally, even when cameras weren't rolling.
Multiple sources directly connected to the 'Rust' production tell TMZ ... the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired -- hitting the DP and director -- was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we're told amounted to target practice.
We're told this off-the-clock shooting -- which was allegedly happening away from the movie lot -- was being done with real bullets ... which is how some who worked on the film believe a live round found its way in one of the chambers that day.
Obviously, authorities would want to speak to anyone who had been using the weapon for target practice, and -- more importantly -- to whoever was putting the gun back among others used for filming.
Multiple sources directly connected to the 'Rust' production tell TMZ ... the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired -- hitting the DP and director -- was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we're told amounted to target practice.
We're told this off-the-clock shooting -- which was allegedly happening away from the movie lot -- was being done with real bullets ... which is how some who worked on the film believe a live round found its way in one of the chambers that day.
Obviously, authorities would want to speak to anyone who had been using the weapon for target practice, and -- more importantly -- to whoever was putting the gun back among others used for filming.
Source: https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/23/alec-baldwin-rust-gun-accident-used-off-set-target-practice/
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It sounds like someone may have borrowed the gun, returned it to the tray and the assistant director picked it up (possibly without checking with the armorer). This doesn't absolve Mr Baldwin, however, in the same way that a person handed a loaded gun and told it is not loaded who then aims at a person and fires is not absolved of their actions.
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It would be interesting to know if the crew members using it offsite were the original (union) crew, or the (non-union) ones who had just commenced on the site.
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24 Oct 2021, 1:09 am
Brictoria wrote:
Quote:
The smoking gun that claimed the life of Halyna Hutchins might've been more than just an on-set prop -- it was also being fired recreationally, even when cameras weren't rolling.
Multiple sources directly connected to the 'Rust' production tell TMZ ... the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired -- hitting the DP and director -- was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we're told amounted to target practice.
We're told this off-the-clock shooting -- which was allegedly happening away from the movie lot -- was being done with real bullets ... which is how some who worked on the film believe a live round found its way in one of the chambers that day.
Obviously, authorities would want to speak to anyone who had been using the weapon for target practice, and -- more importantly -- to whoever was putting the gun back among others used for filming.
Multiple sources directly connected to the 'Rust' production tell TMZ ... the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired -- hitting the DP and director -- was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we're told amounted to target practice.
We're told this off-the-clock shooting -- which was allegedly happening away from the movie lot -- was being done with real bullets ... which is how some who worked on the film believe a live round found its way in one of the chambers that day.
Obviously, authorities would want to speak to anyone who had been using the weapon for target practice, and -- more importantly -- to whoever was putting the gun back among others used for filming.
Source: https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/23/alec-baldwin-rust-gun-accident-used-off-set-target-practice/
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To help out the site admin, who has recently decided to highlight the potential bias of the sources used:
Source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/tmz/
Source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/tmz/
It sounds like someone may have borrowed the gun, returned it to the tray and the assistant director picked it up (possibly without checking with the armorer). This doesn't absolve Mr Baldwin, however, in the same way that a person handed a loaded gun and told it is not loaded who then aims at a person and fires is not absolved of their actions.
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It would be interesting to know if the crew members using it offsite were the original (union) crew, or the (non-union) ones who had just commenced on the site.
I fail to see how Baldwin would be found culpable. The fault lies with the armorer, as far as I'm concerned.
24 Oct 2021, 2:23 am
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24 Oct 2021, 2:43 am
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24 Oct 2021, 4:49 am
cyberdad wrote:
I think intent is a big factor. At the end of the day this is an accident.
It is interesting (and frankly not surprising) to see how members of the GOP seem to be displaying "vulture" like behaviour
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance ... 14320b1a45
I doubt they care less about Halyna Hutchins.
Baldwin has been on the NRA gun sights (pardon the pun) as he's been the most vocal opponent of gun laws in the US.The actor joined with Amy Schumer, Jimmy Kimmel, and more than 130 stars in 2018 to form the “No Rifle Association Initiative,” which aimed to take down the NRA.
He's also the centre of MAGA derision (led by Trump himself) over SNL sketches where he lampooned the former president. Taken in unison, the incident is being used as an opportunity by the NRA/MAGA camp to attack Baldwin while he is exposed.
It is interesting (and frankly not surprising) to see how members of the GOP seem to be displaying "vulture" like behaviour
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance ... 14320b1a45
I doubt they care less about Halyna Hutchins.
Baldwin has been on the NRA gun sights (pardon the pun) as he's been the most vocal opponent of gun laws in the US.The actor joined with Amy Schumer, Jimmy Kimmel, and more than 130 stars in 2018 to form the “No Rifle Association Initiative,” which aimed to take down the NRA.
He's also the centre of MAGA derision (led by Trump himself) over SNL sketches where he lampooned the former president. Taken in unison, the incident is being used as an opportunity by the NRA/MAGA camp to attack Baldwin while he is exposed.
In all fairness...poor old Dick Cheney got roasted by comedians, including Jon Stewert, when he accidently shot his best friend on a hunting trip. A far left friend even complained about that ...She would say " I dont like Cheney, but he is now grieving over accidently wounding his friend, and here the media is making fun of him. They need to stop
".BTW...didnt you mean "PROponent". And not "opponent" of "gun laws".
But - yes- as with Cheney - there was not any intent to murder. And Baldwin was probably even less culpable for negligence than Cheney because a whole crew were involved in filming the scene, and for making sure that it was safe. Cheney was on his own, and probably was a bit careless about where he aimed his rifle..
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