Mass Casualties Astroworld Music Fest Houston
I'm horrified too. It reminds me of the trampling deaths at a Who concert in Cincinnati in 1979, after which they were supposed to stop general admission ticketing.
I don't do outdoor music festivals or even one-act concerts outdoors.
On top of everything else I'm totally shocked they were allowed to operate a music festival during Covid?! It's bad enough they had a mass gathering without masks or distancing, but I also heard the headliner was bragging on Instagram before the show saying that it was "Oversold!", to hype the event.
It's terrifying and my heart breaks for those families.
Thought of both things too. The disastrous Who concert of the Seventies.
And also ... wondering about the covid angle. Everyone is supposed to be six feet apart...yet they were close enough to crush each other to death. So it may also turn out to be a superspreader event.
Two words:
Liability. Inquest.
It's really unbelievable. What's wrong with people?! (the promoters, the headliner, the security).
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I'm horrified too. It reminds me of the trampling deaths at a Who concert in Cincinnati in 1979, after which they were supposed to stop general admission ticketing.
I don't do outdoor music festivals or even one-act concerts outdoors.
On top of everything else I'm totally shocked they were allowed to operate a music festival during Covid?! It's bad enough they had a mass gathering without masks or distancing, but I also heard the headliner was bragging on Instagram before the show saying that it was "Oversold!", to hype the event.
It's terrifying and my heart breaks for those families.
Thought of both things too. The disastrous Who concert of the Seventies.
And also ... wondering about the covid angle. Everyone is supposed to be six feet apart...yet they were close enough to crush each other to death. So it may also turn out to be a superspreader event.
I think I read somewhere people were supposed to show vaccination proof to get in, but enforcement was lax. The festival was in Texas, which has been one of the loosest states when it comes to COVID protocols.
The deaths are so incredibly tragic. I’ve only been to one modern day music festival but I could see how it makes crowd density control impossible. As a parent I just can’t imagine finding out your child died trying to have fun at a concert.
You know, we’ve had more than a few examples these past few years of how Texas’ antipathy towards regulation can lead to needless death. It’s frustrating to me.
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He's been banned from other venues such as Arkansas for inciting crowds to push forward.
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He literally stood there and watched a body get carried away, and instead of telling people they needed to move out he just stands there and sings "yeah .... " ? This poor young woman tried her best to stop his show by appealing for help.
It's extremely disturbing.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/c ... 952b7c237f
I hate to say, but people worry about the risk of others taking doctor-prescribed medication for Covid but they allow these super-spreader events to take place, and for people to be trampled to death so long as the show goes on?
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Because rock concerts haven't had a long history of these sorts of incidents?
What exactly does the genre of music have to do with anything?
I'd suggest the format of the show had more to do with the outcome than the style of music because plenty of rock bands playing similar types of shows have had mass casualty incidents with similar causes.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster
I hate when people don't learn from the mistakes of history.
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While some artists within that genre do, it isn't a universal theme within hip-hop but further that observation is far more consistently true of other genres that so far thankfully haven't had an incident like this. (Death metal, for example. There's large, festival style death metal shows but they so far haven't had anything of this sort occur.)
I don't think you're familiar enough with hip-hop to make an informed generalization about the genre as a whole.
A better explanation for why Travis Scott neglects security and crowd control at shows is that he's mostly concerned about making money and marketing himself, that's always been who he is and it's no one else's fault but his own.
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Yeah, I doubt it's about the genre.
Live Nation has a history of shoddy concert promotion, oversold venues, and lawsuits for breaking capacity codes.
Ha -- The lawsuits have commenced.
https://pitchfork.com/news/travis-scott ... orld-2021/
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The first Rock-n-Roll concert, in 1952, featured a stampede because of a overselling of tickets. The concert had to be cancelled.
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If I judged all rock based on the buttrock modern rock radio plays we'd both agree I was making an uninformed judgment based on the tip of the iceberg, right?
Same thing.
Yes, it's all the genre's fault and not the individual who made the decision's.
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